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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby Strangelove » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:54 pm

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Sorry, late to the party and I'm outta here in 20 minutes.

Posted this in the other thread:

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Jovocop wrote:I hate Bolland. I don't know I will cheer for the Canucks anymore....

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The Bolland camp won't do anything with Vancouver until they resolve the Ryan Kesler situation.


I think Bolland is the kind of player you like when he's on YOUR team. :D

It's funny, I was thinking this morning that Bolland might be the target if Kes is traded for prospects/picks.

7 year front-loaded with a $4.5m cap hit.

He and Santo in a 2a/2b situation?

(Santo signed for 2 years at $1.5m per)

Don't think alotta posters here are gonna be in favour but it might be the best way to partially fill the hole.

Bolland is an asshole!!

EDIT: oh fuck, just saw the Bolland thread, SWEAR I was thinking about him before the news came out!


So yeah, TOTALLY agree with Skyo.

Well except Skyo thinks we can sign him for less than 7 years.

I think he agrees to $4.5m average IF IT'S FRONT LOADED.

That way he'd have a low salary after 4 years which would make him trade-able buyout-able.

#assholesRus

Those who point out his low-scoring need to remember he's a top PK centre.

And Topper is wrong, the cap will continue to climb...
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby Jovocop » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:04 pm

Strangelove wrote:.

Sorry, late to the party and I'm outta here in 20 minutes.

Posted this in the other thread:

Strangelove wrote:
Jovocop wrote:I hate Bolland. I don't know I will cheer for the Canucks anymore....

I think Bolland is the kind of player you like when he's on YOUR team. :D

It's funny, I was thinking this morning that Bolland might be the target if Kes is traded for prospects/picks.

7 year front-loaded with a $4.5m cap hit.

He and Santo in a 2a/2b situation?

(Santo signed for 2 years at $1.5m per)

Don't think alotta posters here are gonna be in favour but it might be the best way to partially fill the hole.

Bolland is an asshole!!

EDIT: oh fuck, just saw the Bolland thread, SWEAR I was thinking about him before the news came out!


So yeah, TOTALLY agree with Skyo.

Well except Skyo thinks we can sign him for less than 7 years.

I think he agrees to $4.5m average IF IT'S FRONT LOADED.

That way he'd have a low salary after 4 years which would make him trade-able buyout-able.

#assholesRus

Those who point out his low-scoring need to remember he's a top PK centre.

And Topper is wrong, the cap will continue to climb...


There are lots of assholes in the NHL. Some assholes deserve respect because they are just trying to do their jobs. Bolland has a big mouth that makes Lapierre a Saint. What he said on the radio about the Sedins have nothing to do with hockey whatsoever. I just simply cannot like a team with a player like that. I would rather have an asshole like Torres or Ott than that sucker.
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby Island Nucklehead » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:11 pm

Strangelove wrote:I think he agrees to $4.5m average IF IT'S FRONT LOADED.

That way he'd have a low salary after 4 years which would make him trade-able buyout-able.



It's a bit tougher to do front loaded deals these days.

A players lowest season can only drop to 50% of his best season, and year-to-year cannot fluctuate more than 35%. So if you wanted to give Bolland $31.5M (lol even typing that) over 7 years, it would have to look something like this.

6,6,5,5,3.25,3.25,3 =$31.5M ($4.5/cap)

Remember the lowest number you can go in this scenario is 3. If you gave him $10M off the bat, the lowest any individual year could go would be $5M. I'm not sure Dave Bolland will be a $3M+ player when he's in his mid-30's. Frankly, I''m not sure he'll survive in the league until he's in his mid-30's.

Basically, if Dave Bolland wants 7 years good for him, I don't want the Canucks anywhere near that for a bottom-6 caliber player.
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby Strangelove » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:15 pm

Disagree on some of your points IN.

But like I say, gotta run, later...
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby Mr.Miyagi » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:20 pm

One of the most overrated players in the game today. Good player but overrated.

No thanks.
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby Betamax » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:28 pm

Mr.Miyagi wrote:One of the most overrated players in the game today. Good player but overrated.

No thanks.


Bolland seems like a good fit for the Oilers. The team that allegedly offered Clarkson more money than the Leafs. Maybe they "get lucky" this time. LOL. :mex:
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby mr perfect » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:47 pm

Rumsfeld wrote:I don't want that piece of shit on my team.

He's always injured and IMO overrated. I'm all for adding grit and toughness but Bolland is not the answer.

If we're going to spend that kind of cash on a UFA forward, we may as well go after Stastny.



Word.


People here also forget this is the NHL and what Bolland got away with on the Sedins wouldn't be allowed by Bettman, Campbell and the rest of the corrupt inbreds in charge if Bolland skewered say, Logan Couture the same way he slew footed the Sedins. Bolland would be given suspension after suspension when he wasn't serving most of the game in the penalty box. No to Bolland.
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby SKYO » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:21 pm

Just because Bolland was mean to the Sedin's in the heat of the moment isn't much of a reason to not want him lol plus he did apologize for the bunk bed comments.aha

It has been almost two years since Bolland, speaking on Chicago radio station WGN, referred to the Sedin twins as “sisters” and implied they sleep in “bunk beds.” He has since apologized for his comments. But here in hockey-crazed Vancouver, they have not forgotten. Nor forgiven.

“It was the one mistake I’ve made in my life,” Bolland said in an interview this week. “Everyone makes them. Things like that happen. It’ll be something I put behind me.”

Truth be told, Bolland has been everything but a goon in his time in Toronto. He has scored huge goals, been outstanding on the penalty-kill and likely will be given the task of trying to shut down the Sedins on Saturday in much the same way he smothered Crosby one week earlier, although Canucks coach John Tortorella has the advantage of the final line change.

“The Sedins are great players,” Bolland said. “I played so many games against them in the past. If you let them go for a second or two, they’ll be putting the puck through your legs and in the back of your net. So when we do go in there, we’ve got to be ready for them.

“When you get under guys’ skins, you get them off their games. It’s huge for your team and it’s huge for confidence when you get them off their games.”

As for the frosty reception from the capacity throng that awaits him, well, he’s already prepared.

“You feed of it when you go into a rink and the fans don’t like you and all that,” Bolland said. “But for me, whenever you are going into a rink for a big game to face a great team, you always get a rush.

“When you see the signs that people make about you, you laugh and have some fun with it. It’s fun when you get a reaction. You want to go into a building and you want to play hard so that the fans remember who you are when you come back all the time.

“I think Vancouver was that one place that, when we went back, the team and myself always got up for.”


ENEMIES NOW BUDS

On the same ice surface where they experienced so many grudge matches against each other over the years, bitter foes Mason Raymond and David Bolland have now become friends with a common goal: Help the Leafs beat the Vancouver Canucks Saturday at Rogers Arena.

Not so long ago, Chicago’s Bolland was trying to defeat Raymond’s Canucks. Now they are linemates with the Leafs along with David Clarkson.

We’ve had some huge battles,” Bolland said, “although I’m probably the one who’s disliked in Vancouver over the past years.

“Hockey is different in that way. One day you’re against each other and the next thing you know you’re sitting beside him in the room, you’re buddies, and you’re on the same line.


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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby BurningBeard » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:27 pm

Well, shit. I didn't realize he had a great season playing 23 games for the Leafs... We better sign this guy Mason Raymond too.

Wouldn't his ability to play on both the second or third line by definition make him a "tweener". You know RD won't have that. Sorry, this won't work.
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby Strangelove » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:07 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Strangelove wrote:I think he agrees to $4.5m average IF IT'S FRONT LOADED.

That way he'd have a low salary after 4 years which would make him trade-able buyout-able.


It's a bit tougher to do front loaded deals these days.

A players lowest season can only drop to 50% of his best season, and year-to-year cannot fluctuate more than 35%. So if you wanted to give Bolland $31.5M (lol even typing that) over 7 years, it would have to look something like this.

6,6,5,5,3.25,3.25,3 =$31.5M ($4.5/cap)

Remember the lowest number you can go in this scenario is 3. If you gave him $10M off the bat, the lowest any individual year could go would be $5M. I'm not sure Dave Bolland will be a $3M+ player when he's in his mid-30's. Frankly, I''m not sure he'll survive in the league until he's in his mid-30's.


Upon the completion of the 7-year-contract he'd be 34.

And probably STILL one of the best 3rd-liners in the league.

Island Nucklehead wrote:Basically, if Dave Bolland wants 7 years good for him, I don't want the Canucks anywhere near that for a bottom-6 caliber player.


Dave Bolland is one of the best 3rd line centres in the league.

A $4.5m cap hit might be a tad high the first 2 years, but it's probably good for the last 5 (cap goes up).

And as I say, after 4 years he's totally trade-able with a $3.25 salary in a $90m salary cap world (at age 31)

(or even totally buyout-able if it came to that).

All this hate from Canuck fans for Bolland!!

Is it because he called Vancouver "a city full of weirdos"? :lol:

*looks around at all the socks and secret partnerships

Hmmmm.... :look:

I like to think the Bolland hate would disappear pretty quickly if he were to become a Canuck.
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby Strangelove » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:13 pm

BurningBeard wrote:Wouldn't his ability to play on both the second or third line by definition make him a "tweener". You know RD won't have that. Sorry, this won't work.


Oh yeah. :look:

Scratch Bolland off the list, because RD would be screaming "USELESS SHUTDOWN TWEENER!!" for 7 years.

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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby BigTuna » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:29 pm

Topper wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:I want nothing to do with Bolland on a 7 year deal. That's ridiculous.

Let someone else pay him that much for that long. He's a 40-point, injury-prone, 3rd line center that wants the security of a deal that takes him until he's 35.



And he will get it too. But I agree I hope it's not from us.

Didn't he play 1C

For the Leaves :rofl:

3rd line centre actually.
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby Cornuck » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:43 pm

BigTuna wrote:
Topper wrote:Didn't he play 1C

For the Leaves :rofl:

3rd line centre actually.


Like there's a difference there...
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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby BigTuna » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:44 pm

Cornuck wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
Topper wrote:Didn't he play 1C

For the Leaves :rofl:

3rd line centre actually.


Like there's a difference there...


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Re: Canucks interested in Dave Bolland

Postby RoyalDude » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:45 am

Signing these so called name brand, late twenties, 3rd line agitators who rode the coattails of an elite hockey team - the Blackhawks and saw their value get overhyped because of always ends up biting the team that signed him in the ass.
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