If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would ya?

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If trading Horvat + 6th pick was the only way to acquire the 2014 1st pick, would ya do it?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:43 am

YES! YES! YES!
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Total votes: 49

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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Rumsfeld » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:52 pm

I could live with flipping Shinkaruk if we get that 10th overall from Anaheim for Kes.

I'm thinking we have a couple very high picks in next year's draft when it's all said and done as well.
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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Betamax » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:07 pm

Jovocop wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Tallon confirms Canucks have tabled a very favourable offer for the number one pick. Says two other teams have tabled solid offers as well and hopes 4-5 more will by draft time.


Needs,scoring from right side either wingers or on D. Has had follow up discussions with one of the teams (presumable the Canucks) and odds of trading pick rising but not there yet.

MacKenzie again says Canucks offer is Hunter, the 6th and an unnamed roster player, presumably Hansen but not sure. Will not include Hunter and Tanev both.
I could live with Hansen + Tanev + 6th but losing Hunter will be a step backward. The Canucks will have zero depth on the left winger position.
If the Panthers want scoring on the right side, wouldn't Jensen be the guy they would prefer? He's also more "NHL ready." :eh:

If not, maybe the Canucks will "up" their offer and include their bestest prospect, Bo. 8-)

Besides the lack of prospect depth at LW, they have no prospect that has 1st line scoring potential in their system. Shinkaruk is their only prospect currently in their system that has that possibility. :mex:

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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by nuckster » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:10 pm

I like the trading with Buffalo possibility (for the first).... and yeah, it 's likely going to be a long season before we're in a position of acquiring more quality draft picks in '15
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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Betamax » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:03 pm

nuckster wrote:I like the trading with Buffalo possibility (for the first).... and yeah, it 's likely going to be a long season before we're in a position of acquiring more quality draft picks in '15
via: http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014 ... -top-pick/

Panthers GM: Seventy-percent chance they’ll keep top pick

James O'Brien
Jun 26, 2014, 8:08 PM EDT

The article includes a tweet via: https://twitter.com/garylawless/statuse ... 6260376576
gary lawless Verified account ‏@garylawless

Buff and the #nhljets #9 pick for Florida's #1? Chatter is out there #nhl

5:02 PM - 26 Jun 2014
Bfugly plus the 9th, the alleged offer offer from Jets.

Bfugly was one of Tallon's boys. :mex:

The latest from Eklund via http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/F ... er/1/60911:


Florida at 60%...make that 75% trading Top Pick. Vancouver?
A few hours ago I was told the Panthers are 60% trading the pick...that there had been a change in strategy in Florida...now I am told 75%. The race is afoot!

Hearing the Canucks are a definite possibility.

Stay tuned.
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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Island Nucklehead » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:49 pm

Are we really linking to Eklund now? Get real Betamax. Holy fuck.

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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Betamax » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:41 pm

via: https://twitter.com/ctv_kelcey/status/4 ... 4588568577
Kelcey Brade ‏@ctv_kelcey

I'm told the #FlaPanthers were interested in the #Canucks 6th & 24th picks, but apparently weren't interested in Shinkaruk. @ctvvancouver

4:31 PM - 27 Jun 2014
So, what else did they want? Bo? That also would have been too much, IMO.

So are some Alarm Bells raised on Shinkaruk when the Canucks' are allegedly offering him in trade and the other team doesn't want him? :hmmm:

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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by SKYO » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:44 pm

Horvat, Cassels, McCann, Gaunce

ALL two-way centers lol, no game breakers. :(
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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Betamax » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:49 pm

SKYO wrote:Horvat, Cassels, McCann, Gaunce

ALL two-way centers lol, no game breakers. :(
If they don't have game breakers at C, maybe they have some at wing.

If so, who?

Shinkaruk who was being shopped? :hmmm:

Maybe next year. #TANK :mex:

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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Jovocop » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:49 pm

SKYO wrote:Horvat, Cassels, McCann, Gaunce

ALL two-way centers lol, no game breakers. :(
Just remember, lots of scouts said Kesler wouldn't be anything more than a 3rd line checking center. He turned out to be a game changer in the Nashville series.

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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Betamax » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:53 pm

Jovocop wrote:
SKYO wrote:Horvat, Cassels, McCann, Gaunce

ALL two-way centers lol, no game breakers. :(
Just remember, lots of scouts said Kesler wouldn't be anything more than a 3rd line checking center. He turned out to be a game changer in the Nashville series.
Yeah, maybe the Canucks' will get lucky just over two decades later. Apparently, McCann has a little bit of the Kesler "personality." :mex:

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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by SKYO » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:16 pm

Betamax wrote:
SKYO wrote:Horvat, Cassels, McCann, Gaunce

ALL two-way centers lol, no game breakers. :(
If they don't have game breakers at C, maybe they have some at wing.

If so, who?

Shinkaruk who was being shopped? :hmmm:

Maybe next year. #TANK :mex:
Our future game breakers are already injured - Shink/Virtanen.
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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Betamax » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:15 am

SKYO wrote:
Betamax wrote:
SKYO wrote:Horvat, Cassels, McCann, Gaunce

ALL two-way centers lol, no game breakers. :(
If they don't have game breakers at C, maybe they have some at wing.

If so, who?

Shinkaruk who was being shopped? :hmmm:

Maybe next year. #TANK :mex:
Our future game breakers are already injured - Shink/Virtanen.
Shinkaruk in a recent interview says he is 100% but needs to be medically cleared before resuming contact, Virtanen is slated to be ready for contact by mid-October so he'll miss rookie and main camp and will almost assuredly go back to Junior and if things go well make Team Canada for the WJHC.

Anyway, has there been confirmation on what the Canucks' "best" offer was for the No. 1 pick (last I read it was 6th, 24th and Shinkaruk) .......... and what the Panthers wanted from the Canucks to pull the trigger? :mex:

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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by ClamRussel » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:23 am

The truth of the matter is, Tallon was jerking off the other GMs & was never serious abo trading that pick. He *might* have done it if he could have ass raped a team.
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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Hockey Widow » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:23 am

Benning flat out denied he tabled two first and Hunter. Confirmed Garrison was part of the original offer to Panthers, who said they were in a win now mode. Benning said he felt early on in the process Tallon was not trading the pick but was fishing to see if he could get anyone to bite. Didn't say what his final offer was but the impression I got was that it was a swap of picks plus a roster player not named Tanev.

Dreger fuelled this nonsense and was once again proven wrong. I think the Panthers leaked all these rumours to try and get a bidding war going but it never came.
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Re: If it took Horvat + 6th to acquire 2014 1st pick, would

Post by Betamax » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:27 am

Hockey Widow wrote:Benning flat out denied he tabled two first and Hunter. Confirmed Garrison was part of the original offer to Panthers, who said they were in a win now mode. Benning said he felt early on in the process Tallon was not trading the pick but was fishing to see if he could get anyone to bite. Didn't say what his final offer was but the impression I got was that it was a swap of picks plus a roster player not named Tanev.

Dreger fuelled this nonsense and was once again proven wrong. I think the Panthers leaked all these rumours to try and get a bidding war going but it never came.
I really hope it wasn't Shinkaruk that was offered ... because it will say a lot about the management team and their feelings about where they project him to be as an NHL player and what another GM thinks of him if they were to decline that type of offer. Originally it was @FriedgeHNIC that reported that trade offer, and he's shown to be very reliable. Best case scenario is that was what Tallon asked and GMJB rejected it but the way EF framed it, it seemed like that was what the Canucks offered to Tallon. :mex:

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