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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby Skintag Necklace » Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:25 am

Reefer2 wrote:Based upon the past (except for 1 year), Canucks do nothing, draft BPA at their pick and we don't see him for 3 - 4 years while he "earns" his ice time.



Kind of a negative little guy aren't you ?
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby Canuck-One » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:21 am

Skintag Necklace wrote:
Reefer2 wrote:Based upon the past (except for 1 year), Canucks do nothing, draft BPA at their pick and we don't see him for 3 - 4 years while he "earns" his ice time.



Kind of a negative little guy aren't you ?


LOL you can't blame reefer because it does seem to be the template the Canucks have followed in the "past". I don't see that happening as we go forward. I think we are into a new era as far as how things will be done. I am hoping that "IF" the Kesler trade happens that we get the 10th from Anaheim included. It seems that it should as Kesler , according to Dreger, has asked for it again. Yet Benning likes what Kesler brings to the table and may be trying to talk him out of it. If we get the pick I am hoping for Nylander and Vertanin. I am also hoping for Bonino in any deal with Anaheim as he would fill our need for a 2C perfectly until Nylander grows into the role. If not then I hope for Etem + as while he will be a good winger, he isn't as good as Bonino at this stage of his career.
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:18 am

Don't buy much into rumours but do like the one of how the Canucks brass are trying to figure out how to leave the draft with both Nylander and Virtanen.

I'd love Reinhart but that's to big for us to pull off, Tallon is just blowing smoke, he will keep the pick, just seeing if anyone is willing to overpay which is what it will take to do and I don't want us to overpay, don't think anyone will either. Kuzma is right though, it would have to take Horvat and our 6th to pull it off and that is just a no go IMO. Depth wins. We've seen how the eggs in one basket approach doesn't work in this day and age in the NHL. Virtanen and Horvat I'd rather have than just Reinhart
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby The Brown Knight » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:37 am

RoyalDude wrote: Kuzma is right though, it would have to take Horvat and our 6th to pull it off and that is just a no go IMO. Depth wins.


Depth wins, but that is not how you build depth. Drafting top end talent is king. You get top end talent first, and then focus on depth. Chicago, LA, Pittsburgh, and Boston all did it this way.

Once you have top end talent and sign them at good cap hits, then you focus on depth (either through lucky draft pick selections and/or free agent signings).

Most draft picks (especially in weaker drafts) don't pan out the way they are projected. Drafting, in general, is often a crap shoot.

Risk is minimized substantially (with much higher potential for ROI) if you have a Top 1-3 pick in the first round.

If Kuzma actually is correct, and Horvat + 6th is what it would take, you make that move each and every time.
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby dangler » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:46 am

i hope the Canucks pass on Nylander. A 5'9/ 160lb. player would be a wasted 1st round pick
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby The Brown Knight » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:51 am

dangler wrote:i hope the Canucks pass on Nylander. A 5'9/ 160lb. player would be a wasted 1st round pick


Agreed.

He also looks VERY feminine as well.

He looks like a younger version of Alicia Sylverstone and/or Drew Barrymore. That shit just ain't right.
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:23 pm

Nylander was 5'11 - 175 lbs at the combine and apparently was the strongest pound for pound there, excelled in all the strength testing unlike Bennett (zero pullups) and the fat pig Ritchie (2nd worst body fat at the combine). You must be thinking of Ehlers who was 165 lbs at the combine. Ouch, you'd have to be Wayne Gretzky talented to survive in the NHL at 165 lbs. Nylander is the Swedish Patrick Kane. I'm still wanting Virtanen at 6 but would not be surprised nor disappointed if we take Nylander.
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby SKYO » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:07 pm

RoyalDude wrote:I need to stop browsing the HF Boards. Skyo and his friends are voting for Nylander and Ehlers as to who they want the Canucks to draft. LOL. Exactly what we need, Linus Omark and Maxim Afinigenov to add to a team whose core is as whimpy as a Trevor Linden in a scrap. Those two will do real well against the California triangle. Sorry , it's Ritchie or Virtanen all the way


RoyalDude wrote:Nylander was 5'11 - 175 lbs at the combine and apparently was the strongest pound for pound there, excelled in all the strength testing unlike Bennett (zero pullups) and the fat pig Ritchie (2nd worst body fat at the combine). You must be thinking of Ehlers who was 165 lbs at the combine. Ouch, you'd have to be Wayne Gretzky talented to survive in the NHL at 165 lbs. Nylander is the Swedish Patrick Kane. I'm still wanting Virtanen at 6 but would not be surprised nor disappointed if we take Nylander.


So you're a Nylander fan now?
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby Strangelove » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:22 pm

Hey Skyo, that's MY job! :evil:

:lol:
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby SKYO » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:28 pm

Strangelove wrote:Hey Skyo, that's MY job! :evil:

:lol:


Well you're slackin' lately!
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby Strangelove » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:38 pm

SKYO wrote:
Strangelove wrote:Hey Skyo, that's MY job! :evil:

:lol:


Well you're slackin' lately!


Actually you can have the job bro.

Pretty much full-time thanks to my good buddy The Dude. :D
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:25 pm

SKYO you drunk native, Nylander isn't my 1st choice but I am warming up to the kids prospects. I'm still picking Virtanen at 6 but would not be hugely disappointed if they picked Nylander at 6. I get the sense that the Canucks will be picking Nylander at 6, not sure why, might have to do with the fact they don't have any top shelf skill coming up in the system right now, just a bunch of plumber types with the exception of Shinkaruk. If he does end up being the Swedish version of Patrick Kane, all is good.

Certainly do not want the 165 lb Ehlers whom all your tribesmen at the HF are drooling over.
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby SKYO » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:40 pm

Strangelove wrote:
SKYO wrote:
Strangelove wrote:Hey Skyo, that's MY job! :evil:

:lol:


Well you're slackin' lately!


Actually you can have the job bro.

Pretty much full-time thanks to my good buddy The Dude. :D


haha gave me the easy job hey? good ol RiverviewDude, he's always good for a chuckle.
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby Canuck-One » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:04 pm

I agree with you RD. I want Vertanin but if they pick Nylander I will be a happy camper. It would be so very satisfying if they somehow landed both.
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Re: Canucks with #6 overall

Postby SKYO » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:53 pm

RoyalDude wrote:SKYO you drunk native, Nylander isn't my 1st choice but I am warming up to the kids prospects. I'm still picking Virtanen at 6 but would not be hugely disappointed if they picked Nylander at 6. I get the sense that the Canucks will be picking Nylander at 6, not sure why, might have to do with the fact they don't have any top shelf skill coming up in the system right now, just a bunch of plumber types with the exception of Shinkaruk. If he does end up being the Swedish version of Patrick Kane, all is good.

Certainly do not want the 165 lb Ehlers whom all your tribesmen at the HF are drooling over.


I find it hilarious that a alcoholic / drug addict such as yourself who starts drinking at 11am everyday can call other people drunks LoL.

Your position on prospects/players flip flops more than a willie mitchell freshly caught fish.

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Anyways yeah Nylander at #6 makes the most sense based on sheer talent and skill.

Virtanen imo might drop to like #9-#10 thanks to his injury unless the Canucks can't move up and TL demands! to take JV at #6.

Weird tidbit - Virtanen and Reinhart were roomies for a bit, the two Canucks targets...

For his part, Virtanen read about Linden’s talk on Twitter and seems to be taking it in stride.

“You always dream of getting drafted by your hometown team,” he said. “But it would be great to get drafted by any team.”

Virtanen, 17, will be out of action for four to six months due to his shoulder surgery. His agent, Vancouver-based Kevin Epp, says that it was merely to clean up some “instability,” and Virtanen maintains doctors are telling him he’ll have a 100 per cent recovery. Both Epps and Virtanen maintain that it shouldn’t hurt his draft status. He did play 71 of 72 regular season games, along will all six playoff encounters.

He says he injured initially in a November game against the Kootenay Ice, crashing into the net. He continued to play through it but says he re-injured again in the regular season finale against the Ice and then again in the first round loss to the Ice.

Did we mention that Ice star Sam Reinhart was his roommate in Toronto this past week?

“That’s pretty weird,” he said.


Virtanen says that he’s going through the surgery and rehab process now with hopes that he’ll be ready to make the Canadian world junior team. Even with the bad shoulder, he excelled for the Canadian side at the Under-18 championships in Finland last month. He had a team-best six points, including three goals, in seven games.

He did say that he planned on quizzing Reinhart, 18, about the world junior experience, since Reinhart played on the team this past season. The West Vancouver native is a year older than Virtanen, so they had never played together on provincial teams and didn’t really know each other until rooming together this week.

Reinhart has a November birthday, which put him past the cut-off for last year’s draft. Reinhart is projected as a top-three selection.

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