(Poll) Who do you want to be the Canucks next Head Coach?
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I'd like to see a Trotz given a 2 year deal here.
Stevens is a good choice but I think Trotz is a better one because of how familiar Trotz is with the western conference. Trotz has been doing more with less against western conference powerhouses for a very long time. That, combined with his familiarity with going up against the Cali teams, makes him a pretty good choice in my books.
Stevens is a good choice but I think Trotz is a better one because of how familiar Trotz is with the western conference. Trotz has been doing more with less against western conference powerhouses for a very long time. That, combined with his familiarity with going up against the Cali teams, makes him a pretty good choice in my books.
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I'd be okay with Trotz on a relatively short term but would be happier with Stevens at the helm for many of the same reasons as you mentioned about Trotz. IMHO, the one advantage of Trotz over Stevens is he's been a head coach longer. That said, Stevens has demonstrated that he can coach a more offensive style whereas Trotz pretty much coached the same style for the same team forever. Plus, Stevens has some familiarity with the eastern conference - even if it was a while ago.mathonwy wrote:I'd like to see a Trotz given a 2 year deal here.
Stevens is a good choice but I think Trotz is a better one because of how familiar Trotz is with the western conference. Trotz has been doing more with less against western conference powerhouses for a very long time. That, combined with his familiarity with going up against the Cali teams, makes him a pretty good choice in my books.
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Re: (Poll) Who do you want to be the Canucks next Head Coach
Why does it matter what term is attached to the coaches contract?
If he's a problem he's gone! As we witnessed with Torts.
If he's a problem he's gone! As we witnessed with Torts.
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If it came down to it, put yourself in the players shoes, would you want a coach whose flippin boring and bland (Stevens) or a strong vet coach whose entering his prime + can crack jokes once in awhile (Trotz)
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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Do coaches even get two-year deals anymore?
Trotz can get way better financial security than that from someone else.
Anyway, if we go with a cartoonish troll behind the bench I guess we have fully embraced the Boston model.
Trotz can get way better financial security than that from someone else.
Anyway, if we go with a cartoonish troll behind the bench I guess we have fully embraced the Boston model.
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I don't know Skyo. After the drama queen they just had to endure for a year, "boring and bland" might be just what the doctor ordered.SKYO wrote:If it came down to it, put yourself in the players shoes, would you want a coach whose flippin boring and bland (Stevens) or a strong vet coach whose entering his prime + can crack jokes once in awhile (Trotz)
I mean have you met the Sedins?
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Never go bland and boring! (insert crappy gf joke).Rumsfeld wrote:I don't know Skyo. After the drama queen they just had to endure for a year, "boring and bland" might be just what the doctor ordered.SKYO wrote:If it came down to it, put yourself in the players shoes, would you want a coach whose flippin boring and bland (Stevens) or a strong vet coach whose entering his prime + can crack jokes once in awhile (Trotz)
I mean have you met the Sedins?
In the end it sounds like Trotz will be the coach! as TL keeps mentioning experience yada yada
trotz:
“I really think that coaching now is like being a business leader; you've got to create an environment where people feel they have a voice. It's not the old days, where it was ‘my way or the highway.' Players are owners in the clubs now ... and my job is to get these 23 or 24 individual businesses to work together.”
Hard work has been a trademark of the Predators’ organization ever since. Trotz usually gets the most out of the players at his disposal, but he will dispute the widely held notion that his team perennially overachieves. His view is that there is no such thing as overachieving (“other than me marrying my wife,” he quips, sheepishly) because if you ultimately succeed at something, then the goal was always within your grasp.
“I just ask players to play to their potential, and that’s all,” Trotz said. “You want to put people in positions to succeed. What we’ve been able to do is look at a player and say, ‘what is your talent? What is your real talent?’
“Sometimes, there are certain guys that can’t do some things, so you accept them for what they can do and you try to push them closer to what you want them to do and then you try to put them with people that will help them do it.”
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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Nice quote Skyo.SKYO wrote:Never go bland and boring! (insert crappy gf joke).Rumsfeld wrote:I don't know Skyo. After the drama queen they just had to endure for a year, "boring and bland" might be just what the doctor ordered.SKYO wrote:If it came down to it, put yourself in the players shoes, would you want a coach whose flippin boring and bland (Stevens) or a strong vet coach whose entering his prime + can crack jokes once in awhile (Trotz)
I mean have you met the Sedins?
In the end it sounds like Trotz will be the coach! as TL keeps mentioning experience yada yada
trotz:“I really think that coaching now is like being a business leader; you've got to create an environment where people feel they have a voice. It's not the old days, where it was ‘my way or the highway.' Players are owners in the clubs now ... and my job is to get these 23 or 24 individual businesses to work together.”
Hard work has been a trademark of the Predators’ organization ever since. Trotz usually gets the most out of the players at his disposal, but he will dispute the widely held notion that his team perennially overachieves. His view is that there is no such thing as overachieving (“other than me marrying my wife,” he quips, sheepishly) because if you ultimately succeed at something, then the goal was always within your grasp.
“I just ask players to play to their potential, and that’s all,” Trotz said. “You want to put people in positions to succeed. What we’ve been able to do is look at a player and say, ‘what is your talent? What is your real talent?’
“Sometimes, there are certain guys that can’t do some things, so you accept them for what they can do and you try to push them closer to what you want them to do and then you try to put them with people that will help them do it.”
This is what leadership is all about and what Torts had absolutely no clue about.
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Well... the term matters because it affects the timing of the strategy the coach / GM will be implementing.Aaronp18 wrote:Why does it matter what term is attached to the coaches contract?
If he's a problem he's gone! As we witnessed with Torts.
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So what strategy do you suspect would be implemented if a coach is signed to a two year contract?mathonwy wrote: Well... the term matters because it affects the timing of the strategy the coach / GM will be implementing.
And Rummy is right, who signs a two year contract anymore - a two year extension maybe but not a new deal with a new team. Especially someone like Trotz who will be a candidate for several of the coaching vacancies this year.
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I'm not advocating for a 2 year deal as I just threw that number out.Aaronp18 wrote:So what strategy do you suspect would be implemented if a coach is signed to a two year contract?mathonwy wrote: Well... the term matters because it affects the timing of the strategy the coach / GM will be implementing.
And Rummy is right, who signs a two year contract anymore - a two year extension maybe but not a new deal with a new team. Especially someone like Trotz who will be a candidate for several of the coaching vacancies this year.
http://www.otherleague.com/contracts/nh ... -salaries/
Looking at other contracts, it seems that 5 years is the average term.
Re: (Poll) Who do you want to be the Canucks next Head Coach
Glad to see you still have your head up your ass.mathonwy wrote:I'm not advocating for a 2 year deal as I just threw that number out.
http://www.otherleague.com/contracts/nh ... -salaries/
Looking at other contracts, it seems that 5 years is the average term.
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Re: (Poll) Who do you want to be the Canucks next Head Coach
With Barry Trotz out of the running, it looks like John Stevens is the next favourite candidate here @ the corner.
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If I had to guess... I'm guessing Benning is going to go off the board on this one.
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I don't think this will be Jim Bennings choice alone.
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