Island Nucklehead wrote:
Brian Campbell's been averaging 45 point seasons since leaving the Hawks, pretty comparable production to Duncan Keith (averaging 49 pt seasons) over the past 3 seasons, actually. Byfuglien hasn't been under 50 points (lockout adjusted) since leaving the Hawks. Not bad, no? Must be nice to be able to piss away talent like that and not miss a beat... Do you think guys from the 2013 Hawks team that have since moved on (Frolik, Stalberg...) are in that same category?
The thing with Campbell, is that he brings almost nothing else to the table other than offense. Not only that, but he comes with an extremely heavy cap hit (not that this has anything to do with our debate, but I thought I'd mention). I don't think Campbell is regarded as being one of the best defensemen in the league, and I also suspect that if the Panthers had a chance to move Campbell (given his cap hit), they would. I don't think one can call Campbell a "franchise defenseman" like you can with Keith. Keith brings far more to the table.
Byfuglien also has some very significant holes in his game. There is a reason why he didn't make Team USA this year. Byfuglien is still a good player, but he hasn't really been the same since the 2010 playoffs. Again - like Campbell, I wouldn't consider him to be a "franchise guy" despite being a pretty good player.
You're right about Frolik and Stalberg.
I don't know. It's subjectivity on my part, but I wasn't overly impressed with that 2010 Chicago team. They were great no doubt, but I saw some holes and chinks in the armour. I think the 2013 Hawks were better as a whole, and the Kings of this year defeated what was essentially that 2013 Hawks team (and this 2014 Kings team is essentially the same team that won it in 2012 and almost no team in recent history has dominated a playoff like those 2012 Kings).