Betamax wrote: dbr wrote:
Regarding Pierre McGuire there's a reason he was canned in Hartford and basically rode out of town on a rail (see here
), there's a reason he couldn't get another coaching or management job in the NHL after that and there's a reason the only other team who took a chance on him in that capacity, an ECHL club based in Baton Rouge, didn't bother renewing his contract after a single season.
Can there be a reason that, you learn from your past experiences? The article you cited was uh, two decades ago. So, Coach (at the time of this post) Torts talks about forgetting about what happened back in 2011, yet you bring up an op/ed from two decades ago. As what Jennifer Mathers said when she made her one and only appearance on TEAM 1040 radio, "Let it go, dave ... Let it go."
Indeed. I know you're just looking to cause a stir with this particular line of thought so I'm having a really hard time giving a response to this my full attention but Current Coach John Tortorella was talking about reading the writing on the wall at this time rather than allowing not so recent events to colour one's perspective.
What about recent events indicates that Pierre McGuire is a more suitable coaching candidate than any of the hundreds of coaches currently working (or having worked in the last decade or so) for a North American hockey team?
If the Canucks core is "stale" what are Pierre's qualifications? Mouldering?
BTW, I don't know if you follow the NFL but Coach Carroll didn't exactly shine during his first stint in the NFL.
I don't really follow the NFL. But any idiot can go scan his Wikpedia page and see that he coached in that league for a decade prior to becoming a head coach and that after his first stint he continued to get coaching jobs in that league and even another head coaching job in New England, where his eventual termination was talked about in the terms of being one of the toughest decisions Robert Kraft had to make up to that point, "a lot of things were going on that made it difficult for him to stay, some of which were out of his control," etc.
Apparently he turned down more NFL coaching positions for the 2000 season before eventually going to USC. At least, that's what any idiot can read over on Wikipedia.
Contrasts pretty sharply with Pierre McGuire's one absolute disaster of a season (in which he earned no respect from his players or members of the Whalers organization, was openly mocked by opposing players, etc) after which his firing was openly called "the best thing that could have happened to the Whalers" by a prominent player - and his out-with-a-whimper ECHL campaign that marked the end of his coaching career.
By the way if you read the article it is not exactly an op-ed, unless you have reason to believe this reporter is lying it appears he spoke to over 20 individuals in the organization about McGuire to reach his conclusions.
At any rate you can attempt to undermine my position by saying the article is from "two decades ago" but the fact that one has to go back that far to find information about McGuire as a coach speaks volumes to the half-bakedness of the notion that he should be behind the bench of a professional hockey team in 2014.