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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby herb » Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:20 pm

The guy who has me really intrigued is Leon Draisaitl. He is an offensive center with size and skill, and has scored at a rate of 1.64 points per game this season. As a point of reference, RNH scored at a rate of 1.54 in his draft year, Evander Kane scored at a rate of 1.57 and Tyler Seguin scored at a rate of 1.68. I have seen him ranked as high as in the top five and as low as 11th.

From what I've read he's not as aggressive as some of the other forwards available in the top 10, but I'd love for Draisaitl to fall far enough for us to pick him.
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby Uncle dans leg » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:22 pm

herb wrote:The guy who has me really intrigued is Leon Draisaitl. He is an offensive center with size and skill, and has scored at a rate of 1.64 points per game this season. As a point of reference, RNH scored at a rate of 1.54 in his draft year, Evander Kane scored at a rate of 1.57 and Tyler Seguin scored at a rate of 1.68. I have seen him ranked as high as in the top five and as low as 11th.

From what I've read he's not as aggressive as some of the other forwards available in the top 10, but I'd love for Draisaitl to fall far enough for us to pick him.

He was a player that really shined at the wjc in Russia the year before last. I noticed he had excellent hockey sense and protected the puck like Malkin. I'm with u on the Leon bandwagon
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby SKYO » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:06 pm

herb wrote:The guy who has me really intrigued is Leon Draisaitl. He is an offensive center with size and skill, and has scored at a rate of 1.64 points per game this season. As a point of reference, RNH scored at a rate of 1.54 in his draft year, Evander Kane scored at a rate of 1.57 and Tyler Seguin scored at a rate of 1.68. I have seen him ranked as high as in the top five and as low as 11th.

From what I've read he's not as aggressive as some of the other forwards available in the top 10, but I'd love for Draisaitl to fall far enough for us to pick him.

His stock has risen a lot, he'll be picked in top 6 easy.

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Flip Kesler to the Ducks in the summer for Etem or Palmieri and Ottawas pick. Continue to shit the bed and land the 6 or 7 pick. Two picks in the top 10 gives Eye Bags a chance at landing Reinhart , Bennet or Ekblad.

Bang on, probably be around 8th overall pick (Ott.)

Wonder if we do that trade, and Florida wants Ekblad and he gets picked, if they could trade us that 3rd overall pick for our 8th and probably our 9th? Only because Florida has a lot of good young centers already.

Hometown boy Reinhart, or Bennet or Draisaitl one of them will be available at #3 if the Oilers get their dman.
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby Hockey Widow » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:44 pm

Well rumour has it that Florida is willing to trade their number one this year but it has to be for a somewhat established, good, top 4 on D or top 6 up front, roster player+.

Too bad we don't have Luongo available to trade :mrgreen:

But they might take a Tanev plus for their number one. Don't know what the plus would be.
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Postby Lancer » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:02 am

Hockey Widow wrote:Well rumour has it that Florida is willing to trade their number one this year but it has to be for a somewhat established, good, top 4 on D or top 6 up front, roster player+.

Too bad we don't have Luongo available to trade :mrgreen:

But they might take a Tanev plus for their number one. Don't know what the plus would be.


Ummmm..... Edler, anyone??? I mean, God knows he can be convinced of the off-the-ice perks pf playing in Florida, amiright? Maybe we can get Lou to do a sell job. ;)
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby RoyalDude » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:20 am

This McCann kid is a Bo Horvat fast riser. Could end up being one if the top 3 players to come out of this class after all is said and done. Him, the swede Kempe and Ehlers could be the sneak steals of the draft. Dal Colle has bust written all over him. I want Draisaitl but he will go top 4. Virtanen has David blinders Booth written all over him the more I read his scouting reports. Craig Button didnt even have him in the first round.

Nicholas Ritchie is who we should be targeting. Big, tough, skilled. Perlini and Dal Colle and Virtanen are bust potential. I'd take Nylander or Kapanen ahead of them. Target - Ritchie, McCann, Ehlers. If they are gone target Nylander, Kapanen, Kempe, Fleury, Ho Sang

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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby nuckster » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:06 am

FFS - Gotta say, I'm really dissapointed in the fact that the team is pursuing the goal of making it into the playoffs; and I don't understand the short-sighted fanfare about them winning right now either? In my view the most exciting part of this 'shitty' season is the prospect of acquiring a decent draft pick and we're frikin blowing it. Achieving a 9th or 10th placing in the conference at season's end is like the absolute worst thing we could do...it's kinda like the 2nd best poker hand (not good).

If I was Gillis , I would play the backup goalie and put as many rookies i could into the line-up. He has an opportunity to achieve something really positive here.

I'll be very interested in hearing what all these 'rah rah lets win now rooters' have to say on draft day as we watch the quality draftees get picked up leaving us with the lesser quality options!? Rah Rah

So on Sunday, it's 'Go Buffalo Go', with 10 games left to stink it up. BUT i have a sneaking suspicion that we're so fucked up we don't even know how to fuck up properly going down the stretch. It'll be fitting end to a screwed up season to screw ourselves out of a decent pick.

Hmm yeah me's a little cynical for sure - i think it might be 'longsufferingcanuckitis'
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:24 am

Ehlers is a runt . Dal Colle will be a stud . Also like Ritchie a lot . like Nylander as well
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Postby Arachnid » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:38 am

nuckster wrote:FFS - Gotta say, I'm really dissapointed in the fact that the team is pursuing the goal of making it into the playoffs; and I don't understand the short-sighted fanfare about them winning right now either? In my view the most exciting part of this 'shitty' season is the prospect of acquiring a decent draft pick and we're frikin blowing it. Achieving a 9th or 10th placing in the conference at season's end is like the absolute worst thing we could do...it's kinda like the 2nd best poker hand (not good).

If I was Gillis , I would play the backup goalie and put as many rookies i could into the line-up. He has an opportunity to achieve something really positive here.

I'll be very interested in hearing what all these 'rah rah lets win now rooters' have to say on draft day as we watch the quality draftees get picked up leaving us with the lesser quality options!? Rah Rah

So on Sunday, it's 'Go Buffalo Go', with 10 games left to stink it up. BUT i have a sneaking suspicion that we're so fucked up we don't even know how to fuck up properly going down the stretch. It'll be fitting end to a screwed up season to screw ourselves out of a decent pick.

Hmm yeah me's a little cynical for sure - i think it might be 'longsufferingcanuckitis'


That's pretty damn selfish and short-sighted there 'ster...

This is a company and as a company they want to make money. It is not a charity for fans to bitch and complain about or act like they are king fashizzle.

I don't think purposely tanking the season would do anyone good.

Let's say you were the GM (I know, I LAUGHED OUT LOUD when I typed that too) and you did the above and the team kept on winning?

What then? Pull your goalie in the 2nd period ala Keenan?!

It is what it is. My Tank it Torts Tank it™ mantra was what it was. A coach can't tank it. It goes against everything they do and say. A reaction to their unbelievable uninspired play at the most crucial time of the year.

GMMG could have by trading everyone like Buffalo did but they started winning (a little more) but are so far behind everyone there is no danger of getting a cold draft up their skirt.

I still think we will pick Top 10, maybe not 6th but 9 or 10 is still great ('Hello' Bo!).

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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby vic » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:59 am

nuckster wrote:FFS - Gotta say, I'm really dissapointed in the fact that the team is pursuing the goal of making it into the playoffs; and I don't understand the short-sighted fanfare about them winning right now either? In my view the most exciting part of this 'shitty' season is the prospect of acquiring a decent draft pick and we're frikin blowing it. Achieving a 9th or 10th placing in the conference at season's end is like the absolute worst thing we could do...it's kinda like the 2nd best poker hand (not good).


Because a losing attitude is exactly what this (or any other) team needs and wants going through their locker room. And the players want to lose so the team can draft someone to potentially take their job in the future.

nuckster wrote:If I was Gillis , I would play the backup goalie and put as many rookies i could into the line-up. He has an opportunity to achieve something really positive here.


1. You're not Gillis
2. Even if you were Gillis, it would be Tort's call on who plays in net.
3. I don't know how tanking the season is a positive thing, except for fans who accept losing as a good thing.
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Postby Zedlee » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:02 am

nuckster wrote:FFS - Gotta say, I'm really dissapointed in the fact that the team is pursuing the goal of making it into the playoffs; and I don't understand the short-sighted fanfare about them winning right now either? In my view the most exciting part of this 'shitty' season is the prospect of acquiring a decent draft pick and we're frikin blowing it. Achieving a 9th or 10th placing in the conference at season's end is like the absolute worst thing we could do...it's kinda like the 2nd best poker hand (not good).

If I was Gillis , I would play the backup goalie and put as many rookies i could into the line-up. He has an opportunity to achieve something really positive here.



I know...just when it got the point where I wanted them to lose every game, they are now climbing the standings.

For all those folks who espouse "tanking"....it's actually a really hard thing to do. First of all, making the playoffs means millions for the owners...even if it's only 2 home games and out...so there is always and incentive to make the playoffs. Secondly...Gillis apparently does not advise his coach to do anything. That was obvious after the Luongo Heritage classic fiasco. If there was ever a time for this GM to tell his coach who to play in goal..that was it, but nope. As for the players...they are bred to compete and want to win every game...plus fans have paid top dollar for tickets to see their team "try" to win. "tanking" is a lot easier said than done.
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby nuckster » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:59 am

I'm a definite minority it appears re: tanking. Just don't see the upside to winning right now when we've already basically put ourselves out of contention. So it's a b it of a schizo type of experience for me when I watch the games - part of me cheers when they score and play well (as per usual), but another part of me that has an eye on the 'big picture', sighs and thinks 'shit we're going to lose out on the more premium draft picks'. It's that simple. Don't know how that is contrued as self-centered. Yes ofcourse it 's a business, but it's also a stupid frikin game that we continually fixate on like a bunch of idiots. People/fans are going to show up for the games regardless (at least for the remainder of this year). It's really interesting to me how people are so dismissive about the prospect of acquiring a higher draft pick and hopefully a blue chip prospect for the future.
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby Lancer » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:44 am

It's a delicate balance between winning to sustain a competitive culture in the dressing room (vice an 'okay with losing' culture - see Oilers, Edmonton), and losing in order to get a decent drafting spot. Anything 10 and up works for me. Nick Ritchie looks like the kind of kid the team needs in this version of the NHL. Draisaitl... meh. I've heard that he has only one speed of play - which works in the CHL, but won't cut it in the NHL. That Ehlers kid looks promising though. It would fit the Danish trend this team seems to be following. ;)

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Postby BurningBeard » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:21 pm

nuckster wrote:FFS - Gotta say, I'm really dissapointed in the fact that the team is pursuing the goal of making it into the playoffs; and I don't understand the short-sighted fanfare about them winning right now either?


You really think the team is made up of, and ran by, a bunch of heartless, apathetic, pussies who are just waiting to be told to call it in? Why would you bother wasting your time as a fan cheering for such a team?
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side Minions: The Top Draft Prospect

Postby Arachnid » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:23 pm

nuckster wrote:I'm a definite minority it appears re: tanking. Just don't see the upside to winning right now when we've already basically put ourselves out of contention. So it's a b it of a schizo type of experience for me when I watch the games - part of me cheers when they score and play well (as per usual), but another part of me that has an eye on the 'big picture', sighs and thinks 'shit we're going to lose out on the more premium draft picks'. It's that simple. Don't know how that is contrued as self-centered. Yes ofcourse it 's a business, but it's also a stupid frikin game that we continually fixate on like a bunch of idiots. People/fans are going to show up for the games regardless (at least for the remainder of this year). It's really interesting to me how people are so dismissive about the prospect of acquiring a higher draft pick and hopefully a blue chip prospect for the future.


Wow, you really need to take care...of yourself more...it's just a company hockey game, nothing to get worked up about...

I'm a little concerned about your mental state. We are a tight knit Canuck community here and when one of us is suffering, we all do.
Maybe you should talk to someone?! :eh:
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