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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby Reefer2 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:34 am

herb wrote:A team in Seattle would be great. A third pacific north-western team in Portland seems like a pipe-dream, but you never now.

It's been pretty obvious since the division realignment that expansion was inevitable. Seattle is the no-brainer. Portland, Las Vegas and maybe Kansas City are options also.

Regarding the "talent pool", it's never been deeper. Look at the quality of goaltending around the league as an example - it's ridiculous.

The KHL is only a threat for Russian players, which given their recent showings on the world stage shouldn't be a concern. The game is growing at a strong pace in the US, and more American teams will only build on that.


To me the bigegst threat to the game is the current 2/3 point system for each game and the trap and basically moving back toward the dead puck era.
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby Zedlee » Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:56 pm

I"d love to see a team in Seattle, but would it work, financially?
Seattle already has the Seahawks and Mariners, plus college teams to vie for the entertainment dollar. Hard to imagine there would be enough interest in a hockey team to fill the rink for 42 regular season games.
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby herb » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:08 pm

^I disagree.

Seattle is a wealthy, affluent city. Corporate America is alive and well in Seattle, and some of the guys rumoured to be involved in the ownership group make Aquilini look like a peasant in comparison.

Seattle has a higher GDP than other metropolitan US areas that are home to more major sports teams like Minneapolis, Detroit, Phoenix, Denver and St Louis. Seattle's GDP per capita is fourth in the country. Any way you measure it, Seattle is a wealthy city.

Not only that, Seattle has proven itself to be a great sports city. Once the Seahawks season is over there is nothing going on there in terms of pro sports and the weather is generally God awful. I think Seattle is as much of a no brainer as there is in terms of NHL expansion/relocation.

Forgot to mention that Seattle is a very 'white' city. The NHL's biggest customer by far is the white 25-60 year old man, which is ideal for Seattle.
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby Topper » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:39 pm

butt Vancouver already claimed the 7th man.

Seattle is a sports town with many celebrating the retirement of Stern nearly as much as the Seahawk victory. But are they hockey fans? Could they become hockey fans? Do the T-Birds do well and will that base expand to a pro team?

As Herb said, their is no shortage of $'s in Seattle and a geek tech rivalry with San Jose could be developed.

The idea of transplanted Canuck fans coming out to games in numbers that matter is a fallacy. They need their own fan base.

That said, I am against expansion and actually continue to favour contraction. If the middle ground is relocation, wait two years and see how some Canadian teams are fairing with 75 cent Canuck bucks.
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby Meds » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:50 pm

Topper wrote:butt Vancouver already claimed the 7th man.

Seattle is a sports town with many celebrating the retirement of Stern nearly as much as the Seahawk victory. But are they hockey fans? Could they become hockey fans? Do the T-Birds do well and will that base expand to a pro team?

As Herb said, their is no shortage of $'s in Seattle and a geek tech rivalry with San Jose could be developed.

The idea of transplanted Canuck fans coming out to games in numbers that matter is a fallacy. They need their own fan base.

That said, I am against expansion and actually continue to favour contraction. If the middle ground is relocation, wait two years and see how some Canadian teams are fairing with 75 cent Canuck bucks.


I'm not a fan of expansion either, although if it means a team in Seattle I would take it as I think a rivalry between the Canucks and said team would become a good one. If contraction were considered, which we know it won't be, what teams would you drop Tops? Phoenix is a given, but who else?
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby SKYO » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:02 pm

Meds wrote:I'm not a fan of expansion either, although if it means a team in Seattle I would take it as I think a rivalry between the Canucks and said team would become a good one. If contraction were considered, which we know it won't be, what teams would you drop Tops? Phoenix is a given, but who else?


Phoenix or Columbus imho.
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby herb » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:03 pm

I’m not a fan of expansion either, but it appears to be an inevitability. A close rival in Seattle has the potential of being awesome. IMO, Phoenix and Florida should be moving north, but that ain’t going to happen.

Seattle is as much if not more of a hockey town than San Jose, LA, Anaheim, Phoenix, Dallas, Raleigh, Nashville, Miami, Columbus and St Petersburg ever were before the NHL. No doubt Seattle would have to develop their own fans.
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby Meds » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:27 pm

SKYO wrote:
Meds wrote:I'm not a fan of expansion either, although if it means a team in Seattle I would take it as I think a rivalry between the Canucks and said team would become a good one. If contraction were considered, which we know it won't be, what teams would you drop Tops? Phoenix is a given, but who else?


Phoenix or Columbus imho.


Columbus definitely has the population base to support a team, 20th largest city by pop. in Canada/USA. Their attendance started off well but has really fallen off and been on a relatively steady decline since it peaked in 2001-02 (their second year). As with most American expansion cities success is critical, and 14 years after their inaugural season the Blue Jackets have only played a total of 4 playoff games.
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby black ace » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:40 pm

SKYO wrote:
Meds wrote:I'm not a fan of expansion either, although if it means a team in Seattle I would take it as I think a rivalry between the Canucks and said team would become a good one. If contraction were considered, which we know it won't be, what teams would you drop Tops? Phoenix is a given, but who else?


Phoenix or Columbus imho.


Florida is still apparently losing buckets of money.
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:03 pm

black ace wrote:
SKYO wrote:
Meds wrote:

Florida is still apparently losing buckets of money.


That's why a Luongo to Florida trade makes sense
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Re: New Seattle NHL team?

Postby dbr » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:07 pm

black ace wrote:Florida is still apparently losing buckets of money.


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