So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Welcome to the main forum of our site. Anything and everything to do with the Vancouver Canucks is dicussed and debated here.

Moderator: Referees

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby Strangelove » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:31 pm

Topper wrote:Oh yes, I was laughing at the flawed Strangelove. Yes, most definitely at.


Thought so, a whooosh is definately in order then!

Topper wrote:Betman's appeal rulings, that is a different matter. Those are worth while reads.......


OMG those are worth the biggest laughs of all!!!

whooosh
____
The Ring Leader
User avatar
Strangelove
CC Legend
 
Posts: 7587
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:13 pm

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby The Brown Knight » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:59 pm

rats19 wrote:We continue to ride the roller coaster called. Being a canuck fan..Sheesh dark one what a silly question :crazy:


Hey rats,

Of course I'll be a Canuck fan regardless of what the future holds. I think you may have misinterpreted the intent of my post.

Obviously as fans, our role is to be there for the team no matter what, and enjoy the ups and downs.

All I'm saying is this:

If Gillis is not careful in the up coming years, we could be seeing a lot more down then up in the future once the twins either decline or retire.

We saw what happened to the Flames after 2009.
We saw what happened to the Edmonton Oilers after 2008.
We saw what happened to the talented Leafs core after 2003, and we saw what happened to the Avs once Sakic retired.

All I'm saying, is that if Gillis takes some bold yet shrewd moves for a franchise player, then maybe we can keep this party going. Ya dig?

Look at how the San Jose Sharks remained an elite team after trading for Joe Thornton in 2005? If you recall, that team was declining fast after a few promising years. With the Thornton trade however, they kept the party going and have been one of the most consistent franchises.

It's entirely possible that over these next four years, we draft or develop someone that is of the same calibre as a Pavel Bure, Markus Naslund, or the Sedin twins. Or maybe not. Perhaps one of Horvat, Shinkaruk, or Gaunce will develop and be of that calibre. Maybe not.

All I'm saying is that when the Sedins decline or retire, we need to be prepared.

If a team like Pitsburgh gets blitzed again in the playoffs this season..............and their issues with team defense and goaltending are issues yet again, then perhaps inquiring about a move for Malkin might be a solid move for us that can help keep the party going until atleast 2023 instead of say 2017-2018.
"I post the Brown Way" ~ Connor McHindu"

The Dark Indian Rises
User avatar
The Brown Knight
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1037
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:42 am

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby rats19 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:02 pm

You mustn't have heard. We just signed Dane Fox.. :drink:
You are who you hang with.....
User avatar
rats19
Moderator & MVP
Moderator & MVP
 
Posts: 4816
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:21 am
Location: over there.....

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby The Brown Knight » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:05 pm

Tciso wrote:
The Brown Knight wrote:It's definitely possible that someone will step up when the Sedins bow-out and/or decline..........but it's also possible that no one does either.........and hence, creating a Calgary-like situation.

I can go on and on, but the point remains: If a franchise loses it's franchise player(s), and said franchise players aren't replaced, then that franchise will go into the toilet for a number of years. Period.

Yes - it's entirely possible that someone can step up. From the examples that I showed however, it's also possible that no one steps up and the team goes to shit.

Which then begs the question.........is it wise to gamble, or is it perhaps wiser to try and acquire a sure thing? A sure franchise player.


I gotta challenge your assumptions a lot there. Unlike Calgary and those other teams I snipped, we have a solid core of 2nd and 3rd line players. We have solid goal tending. Colorado lost Sakic and Roy. We have Lou, and Lack stepping up nicely. And, we have a strong defense that is adding depth, not losing depth. Lots can happen in 4 years, and with a solid core of players, I don't see the retiring of the twins being a big blow to the team.

My biggest fear is that they suck in years 3 and 4 of their contract, and we cannot add the talent we need in those 2 years, or we lose talent as our young guys come out of rfa status. Those could be some dark seasons.


All great points Tciso.

I will say this however.

We might not end up as low as Calgary, Colorado, etc., but we would surely be a middle-of-the-road team like Phoenix if we don't have an elite franchise player(s) leading the team. All cup contending teams have elite franchise players.

And to your other point, I also agree. I share the same concern.
"I post the Brown Way" ~ Connor McHindu"

The Dark Indian Rises
User avatar
The Brown Knight
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1037
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:42 am

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby The Brown Knight » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:07 pm

rats19 wrote:You mustn't have heard. We just signed Dane Fox.. :drink:


Connor McDavid eat your heart out. :P
"I post the Brown Way" ~ Connor McHindu"

The Dark Indian Rises
User avatar
The Brown Knight
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1037
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:42 am

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby rats19 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:10 pm

Yup..I know what you are saying trust me. What I don't have is answers, I put my faith/hope in our scouts and the GM, because that's all I really can do.
You are who you hang with.....
User avatar
rats19
Moderator & MVP
Moderator & MVP
 
Posts: 4816
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:21 am
Location: over there.....

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby The Brown Knight » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:14 pm

ukcanuck wrote:I'm thinking the kind of succession to the throne you're looking for there TBK doesn't really happen all that much and is kind of impossible to predict otherwise the flames (or habs or islanders or oilers etc ) might not suck so badly.

But in the short term I'm enjoying the way Torts is having a positive effect on Kesler.
I can see his line overshadowing the Sedins and perhaps with luck, a Horvat line slides into the third spot for a season or two before taking over ?

Something like that... As for trading for a new Moses...meh, that happens almost never.


You're right Uk, but like you said..........doesn't really happen all that much........but that doesn't mean it's impossible.

Again - look at the San Jose Sharks in 2005 and how they acquired Joe Thornton.

Even the Canucks in 06' with Luongo (although in our case, the deal fell into Nonis' lap). If the Luongo deal didn't happen, our team was likely headed for a nosedive.

A lot can happen in 4 years, and I will enjoy the ride regardless of what happens, but I think it goes without saying that I'd like to ensure that we remain an elite team for years to come........as opposed to fading into oblivion like Toronto, Calgary, and Edmonton did.
"I post the Brown Way" ~ Connor McHindu"

The Dark Indian Rises
User avatar
The Brown Knight
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1037
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:42 am

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby The Brown Knight » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:15 pm

rats19 wrote:Yup..I know what you are saying trust me. What I don't have is answers, I put my faith/hope in our scouts and the GM, because that's all I really can do.


Yes indeedy.

And all I can do is propose spectacular hypotheticals on Canuckscorner.com. :P
"I post the Brown Way" ~ Connor McHindu"

The Dark Indian Rises
User avatar
The Brown Knight
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1037
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:42 am

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby The_Pauser » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:31 pm

I will celebrate and start to get excited about a new era in Canuckland because the current era is nothing but mediocre. We are no longer a top team. We have fallen back, and are now committed to 4 more years with these declining aging veterans who were never any good in the playoffs to begin with. Now they are in a steep regular season decline where they are nowhere close to being PPG players either. By the end of their contracts we could be committing $14M to two 45-50 point players. A complete albatross.
The_Pauser
CC 2nd Team All-Star
 
Posts: 338
Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:21 pm
Location: Surrey, BC

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby Arachnid » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:42 pm

The_Pauser wrote:I will celebrate and start to get excited about a new era in Canuckland because the current era is nothing but mediocre. We are no longer a top team. We have fallen back, and are now committed to 4 more years with these declining aging veterans who were never any good in the playoffs to begin with. Now they are in a steep regular season decline where they are nowhere close to being PPG players either. By the end of their contracts we could be committing $14M to two 45-50 point players. A complete albatross.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
There is no such thing as climate change...there is no such thing as climate change...there is such thing as climate change...
Arachnid
CC Legend
 
Posts: 5185
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:56 pm
Location: Old Berlin

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby The_Pauser » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:43 pm

Arachnid wrote:
The_Pauser wrote:I will celebrate and start to get excited about a new era in Canuckland because the current era is nothing but mediocre. We are no longer a top team. We have fallen back, and are now committed to 4 more years with these declining aging veterans who were never any good in the playoffs to begin with. Now they are in a steep regular season decline where they are nowhere close to being PPG players either. By the end of their contracts we could be committing $14M to two 45-50 point players. A complete albatross.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Yup, laugh all you want. I mean, how can we do anything without the Sedins? Give these softies the keys to the city! MY GOD THE SEDINS ARE THE GREATEST PLAYERS EVERRR!!!! SEDINS DO NO WRONG!!! SEDINS PLAY LIKE CRAP? BLAME TEH FOURTH LINERZZZZ!!!! SEDINS DO NO WRONG EVAAAA!!!

It's unbelievable the blind love and blind support they get.
The_Pauser
CC 2nd Team All-Star
 
Posts: 338
Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:21 pm
Location: Surrey, BC

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:08 pm

Lol at the tard having a meltdown . Must be the Sedins fault. I blame your parents for this. If they actually signed you up for team sports as a child you might actually understand TEAM sports instead of running around with a river of piss running down your leg every time the team loses a game .
Tell me how my ass tastes.
User avatar
Blob Mckenzie
CC Legend
 
Posts: 3146
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:34 pm
Location: Oakalla

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby The_Pauser » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:23 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Lol at the tard having a meltdown . Must be the Sedins fault. I blame your parents for this. If they actually signed you up for team sports as a child you might actually understand TEAM sports instead of running around with a river of piss running down your leg every time the team loses a game .


Nah, the only tards are the people who blindly support these two sacks of garbage who have gotten this team NOTHING! And who are actually happy that we are saddled with these bad contracts for four more years. But hey, you probably cheer the players more than the team right?
The_Pauser
CC 2nd Team All-Star
 
Posts: 338
Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:21 pm
Location: Surrey, BC

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby Mondi » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:05 pm

When the Sedins retire, it will be like when Naslund and Bertuzzi left. New players will step up.

But at this point, the Sedins are no longer good enough to carry the offensive load without serious help.
User avatar
Mondi
CC 1st Team All-Star
 
Posts: 851
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:02 pm

Re: So.....what do we do when the Sedin twins retire?

Postby mathonwy » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:10 pm

The_Pauser wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Lol at the tard having a meltdown . Must be the Sedins fault. I blame your parents for this. If they actually signed you up for team sports as a child you might actually understand TEAM sports instead of running around with a river of piss running down your leg every time the team loses a game .


Nah, the only tards are the people who blindly support these two sacks of garbage who have gotten this team NOTHING! And who are actually happy that we are saddled with these bad contracts for four more years. But hey, you probably cheer the players more than the team right?


Blindly support these two sacks of garbage? Bad contracts?

Where to even begin...

You sound like a child. Grow up.
User avatar
mathonwy
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 2103
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:53 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Canucks Corner Chat

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 5thhorseman, Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], Meds, Mondi, Tciso and 4 guests