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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby Reefer2 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:21 pm

Topper wrote:Good answer. - LOL

Watching the young guys on Dallas and Florida the last couple of games gets me thinking of BoHo, Shank and Gaunce and I shiver with antici........ PATION!


I agree, I have not said anything different. They need a plan for the young guys and not all of them need 1 - 2 more years in junior and then 2 - 3 years in AHL.

Each player is different and need to brought along based upon their development.

I also think Cassels shows some potential.
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby herb » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:50 pm

Topper wrote:I like Burrows and what he brings to the team, I also think his current funk will get sorted, but I believe he is on the downwind leg of his career and the time was ripe before signing him to his current deal.


I like Burrows too, but you have to give to get. He's in a horrible slump right now, but he'll get through that and get back to being a productive player. Burrows could have gotten us that young center we need right now.

IMO Hansen is capable of bringing close to what Burrows has the past few years at a lower age and price.
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Hansen-Kesler-Burrows = Potential best shutdown line in hock

Postby The Brown Knight » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:02 pm

Hansen-Kesler-Burrows = Potential best shutdown line in hockey?

Since Kesler and Burrows aren't really putting the puck in the net, why not play them together with Hansen (when Hansen returns) and let them be a shutdown line that can possibly score on turnovers?

I don't think it's farfetched at all to assume that if these guys played together, they could be one of the best shut down lines in the NHL.

Richardson and Santorelli anchor the 3rd line with Higgins.

Kassian or Booth plays with the twins. The one who is NOT playing the with twins, goes to the 4th line and adds a bit of depth to the 4th line (as lackluster as both Kassian and Booth have been, they are better than 4th line players and we'd have an advantage down there if either of those guys played against 4th liners).

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Re: Hansen-Kesler-Burrows = Potential best shutdown line in

Postby Topper » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:43 pm

The Brown Knight wrote:Hansen-Kesler-Burrows = Potential best shutdown line in hockey?

Since Kesler and Burrows aren't really putting the puck in the net, why not play them together with Hansen (when Hansen returns) and let them be a shutdown line that can possibly score on turnovers?

Last night, wasn't too dark because of the moon, Jannik played his second game since returning from injury and scored Vancouver's second goal.

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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby The Brown Knight » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:59 pm

Lol, dammit Topper.

Yes, you are correct.

But still........they should play Hansen-Kesler-Burrows for the reasons that I stated.

In fact - if I was Tortorella, I'd start creating more solidified couples.

Twins obviously will play together. Kesler and Burrows on line number 2, and Santorelli/Richards for line number 3.
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:15 pm

I like the way Kassian is playing and I am all for getting him with the twins for an extended look. Like the balance that way too.
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby RoyalDude » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:57 pm

Topper wrote:Good answer. - LOL

Watching the young guys on Dallas and Florida the last couple of games gets me thinking of BoHo, Shank and Gaunce and I shiver with antici........ PATION!


Love the enthusiasm Topper, but don't get your hopes up to high in thinking our kids will match Floridas - Huberdeau, Barkov, Bjugstad, Gudbranson and company. Horvat is the only one I would say has the chance to be lumped in with that crowd. Like Shink, but with his slight frame he is gonna have a difficult time playing his style of game in the NHL.
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby The Brown Knight » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:59 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:I like the way Kassian is playing and I am all for getting him with the twins for an extended look. Like the balance that way too.


I agree with this.

And as you said, it gives our team some depth by default.

It allows Richardson and Santorelli to not be forced to overextend themselves, and I genuinely do think that a Hansen-Kesler-Burrows line would be one of the best shut down lines in hockey.......while also having the ability to score goals on turnovers, etc.

Think back to the start of 2008/2009 when Hansen-Kesler-Burrows played in that type of role.........meant to be purely a defensive role, but still scored a number of goals anyways......where offense was NOT the primary focus.

Richardson and Santorelli.......Same mindset. Just do it on the 3rd line. Like the Kesler/Burrows line, I almost think that a line like this will be MORE successful offensively, if offense is not made to be their primary focus ( which is why I believe that we saw some success from both Santorelli and Richardson in this regard earlier this season).


Another thing I'm interested in trying out..........create a police line. Sestito, Kassian, and Weise when he comes back.

What's left? The Sedin twins........and RoyalBooth of course. ;) Although Booth isn't deserving, why not play him with the twins and see if the twins can get him going? It gives the Canucks a different look, and again, it gives our team "depth by default" since our stronger wingers will be in other lines.
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby RoyalDude » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:00 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:I like the way Kassian is playing


Huh?

We are turning into Edmonton Oiler fans, lowering our standards "Oh that was a good loss. Lots of positives to be taken from that"
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby Mondi » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:46 pm

Q: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGIT?

A: No.
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby RoyalDude » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:21 pm

Hey Mondi, Matthias may not be an impact player but do you not think giving up like a 2nd and 3rd round pick like Gillis gave up for Bernier is what will make us Legit? A Derek Roy type trade
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby dbr » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:43 am

RoyalDude wrote:Hey Mondi, Matthias may not be an impact player but do you not think giving up like a 2nd and 3rd round pick like Gillis gave up for Bernier is what will make us Legit? A Derek Roy type trade


Folks, he may not be arguing against anything that any real person actually thinks.... but these are the only arguments RoyalDude can win.
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby dbr » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:47 am

Mondi wrote:Q: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGIT?

A: No.


Probably depends on what 'an "impact" forward' actually is.

If this team could somehow add a Kopitar, Malkin, Toews, actual impact player - or even a guy from the next tier, Mike Richards, Jeff Carter types - at the one position where we need help the most? I'd say that would put them in the top tier of this league.

If we're talking about the type of "impact" player that's going to be available.. a Cammalleri, Gaborik, Hemsky, Legwand type who a. isn't a first line calibre player most nights and b. either doesn't play a position where we need help or does but doesn't have the high end ability we don't have enough of.... then no, adding that type of player is not going to put us over the top. They might give us enough of a boost that we can hang with the big dogs but wouldn't make us a shoo-in for anything.
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby Mondi » Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:11 pm

Short of Crosby, or Toews the Canucks are not one impact forward short of being legit.

If the Canucks trade someone like Gaunce for Cammalleri, I'll be disappointed but not surprised.

Gillis' track record with respect deadline acquisitions has been spotty. I like the Higgins pickup though.
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Re: Are the Canucks an "impact" forward away from being LEGI

Postby The Brown Knight » Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:17 pm

Mondi wrote:Short of Crosby, or Toews the Canucks are not one impact forward short of being legit.

If the Canucks trade someone like Gaunce for Cammalleri, I'll be disappointed but not surprised.

Gillis' track record with respect deadline acquisitions has been spotty. I like the Higgins pickup though.


Completely agree.

As far as Cammalleri goes, I do not like the idea of getting him at ALL (unless we're giving away ONLY Booth and a shit round pick).
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