Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby rats19 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:40 am

But in your quote..mine was the last word... Wtf? :sly:
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby RoyalDude » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:26 pm

Gillis will most likely trade a 2nd and/or a 3rd round pick at the deadline for a Matt Stajan type. That's his style, reclamation projects and journeyman role player tinkerings. Very bold
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:22 pm

Per wrote:
Strangelove wrote:Also, doctors don't tend to lie about their diagnosis... no matter who's paying them.


That's a HUGE assumption! :shock:

Probably does not apply to doctors connected to bicycle racing, crosscountry skiing or 1980's US & Soviet track and field. And I'm not so sure about Jamaica either. :mex:


Ummm good point.

But don't forget about this part of the Great Strangelove's post:

"the league doctors take a long hard look at these cases".

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:22 pm

SKYO wrote:Bet some of ya are having second thoughts about buying out Luongo now hey? hahahaha


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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby The_Pauser » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:15 pm

Strangelove wrote:
SKYO wrote:Bet some of ya are having second thoughts about buying out Luongo now hey? hahahaha


NOPE


So you like losing games as long as we have da sedinzzzz and no Luongo? Yikes! Glad you're not running this team.
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby vic » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:33 pm

The_Pauser wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
SKYO wrote:Bet some of ya are having second thoughts about buying out Luongo now hey? hahahaha


NOPE


So you like losing games as long as we have da sedinzzzz and no Luongo? Yikes! Glad you're not running this team.


it would be interesting to hear how you would run this team....

Let's start off with the Sedins, you've made it clear you would not have re signed them and either traded or let them walk as UFAs...tell me who you would have replaced them with...
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby The_Pauser » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:09 pm

vic wrote:
it would be interesting to hear how you would run this team....

Let's start off with the Sedins, you've made it clear you would not have re signed them and either traded or let them walk as UFAs...tell me who you would have replaced them with...


Tough to say. Let's assume it's a going forward basis I would not have extended them and would either look to move them at this deadline (unlikely) or just let them walk as UFA"s. Not sure what the UFA crop looks like, but I would target guys like Callahan, Stastny and Downie depending on the price tag. Also, with the Sedins walking I would look into another Luongo trade and with Florida talking like they want to be a cap ceiling team I feel a deal could be made there.

I would look to move Edler, Hansen, and this years 1st round pick for Evander Kane. And I would look to move Ryan Kesler in a trade for someone like Ryan Johansen (perhaps in the offseason when he is a RFA). Bring in a young core group. Guys like Burrows and Higgins would still be here as we would need their leadership to bring these kids along.

Yes, this team would not do well next season at all, but the key is to try to get a top 3 draft pick in the 2015 draft where there are several highly rated picks (including generational talent Connor McDavid). If we miss out on McDavid there is still Matthew Barzal, Jack Eichel,

Next season both Horvat and Shinkaruk will get their feet wet. They won't be given top line roles, but 2nd/3rd line spots to get accustomed to the NHL. The following year they should be on the cusp of being able to step up, in addition with a player like McDavid/Barzal/Eichel who should all be in the NHL in their draft year will form an extremely good young nucleus, along with Evander Kane, Brendan Gaunce, and (hopefully) Zack Kassian.
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Aaronp18 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:25 pm

vic wrote:it would be interesting to hear how you would run this team....


Hey vic,

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:31 pm

The_Pauser wrote:the key is to try to get a top 3 draft pick in the 2015 draft


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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby SKYO » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:39 pm

Strangelove wrote:
SKYO wrote:Bet some of ya are having second thoughts about buying out Luongo now hey? hahah


NOPE

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Commence reconstruction Mike Keenan style, come in blow shit up and go for a quick rebuild..

Generally GM's feel safe trading a dman for a forward and vice versa, easier to mask the trade as it's harder to compare/judge the transaction, so with that:

Edler for Couturier + 1st
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Edler for Nyquist (LW/C, sound two-way safe scoring forward) or Tatar (LW, explosive scoring forward) + pick or Smith. I prefer Tatar as he seems like that elusive elite LW scorer in the not too distant future, but Nyquist is able to play center as well as wing.


Kesler for Yandle or just keep RK17 and sign Dan Boyle if he makes it to UFA.
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:52 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Gillis will most likely trade a 2nd and/or a 3rd round pick at the deadline for a Matt Stajan type. That's his style, reclamation projects and journeyman role player tinkerings. Very bold


You know what?

I'd rather the Canucks just stand pat this deadline.

If they can surprise one of the West Conference powerhouses if they make the playoffs, well... awesome.

But this edition of the Canucks is more than a "fine tune" away from competing for the Stanley Cup, so the best thing would be to make the playoffs, get your minimum two home dates to pad/satisfy Aquilini's pocket, and continue to build the team through the draft and free agency.

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby vic » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:41 pm

The_Pauser wrote:
vic wrote:
it would be interesting to hear how you would run this team....

Let's start off with the Sedins, you've made it clear you would not have re signed them and either traded or let them walk as UFAs...tell me who you would have replaced them with...


Tough to say. Let's assume it's a going forward basis I would not have extended them and would either look to move them at this deadline (unlikely) or just let them walk as UFA"s. Not sure what the UFA crop looks like, but I would target guys like Callahan, Stastny and Downie depending on the price tag. Also, with the Sedins walking I would look into another Luongo trade and with Florida talking like they want to be a cap ceiling team I feel a deal could be made there.

I would look to move Edler, Hansen, and this years 1st round pick for Evander Kane. And I would look to move Ryan Kesler in a trade for someone like Ryan Johansen (perhaps in the offseason when he is a RFA). Bring in a young core group. Guys like Burrows and Higgins would still be here as we would need their leadership to bring these kids along.

Yes, this team would not do well next season at all, but the key is to try to get a top 3 draft pick in the 2015 draft where there are several highly rated picks (including generational talent Connor McDavid). If we miss out on McDavid there is still Matthew Barzal, Jack Eichel,

Next season both Horvat and Shinkaruk will get their feet wet. They won't be given top line roles, but 2nd/3rd line spots to get accustomed to the NHL. The following year they should be on the cusp of being able to step up, in addition with a player like McDavid/Barzal/Eichel who should all be in the NHL in their draft year will form an extremely good young nucleus, along with Evander Kane, Brendan Gaunce, and (hopefully) Zack Kassian.



So you are concerned about the Twins production, but want to get rid of them so the team sucks even more to garner a top pick in the 2015 draft? That's the exact message the team wants to send to it's players - let's suck ass so we can get a high draft pick who will take one of your jobs. Getting a high draft pick will help us, after all look at how Edmonton's been doing, they've had 5 in the past few years....

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Groovypippin » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:54 pm

Southern_Canuck wrote:
You know what?

I'd rather the Canucks just stand pat this deadline.

If they can surprise one of the West Conference powerhouses if they make the playoffs, well... awesome.

But this edition of the Canucks is more than a "fine tune" away from competing for the Stanley Cup, so the best thing would be to make the playoffs, get your minimum two home dates to pad/satisfy Aquilini's pocket, and continue to build the team through the draft and free agency.

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Completely agree. My only caveat is if the Canucks actually fall out of playoff contention (very unlikely). Then I don't mind a player or two departing at the deadline if the prices are high.

Other than that, in a highly cap constrained season, its best we stand pat - unless the morons in Winnipeg are actually stupid enough to cut ties with Kane.
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Todd Bersnoozi » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:24 pm

The_Pauser wrote:Eddie Lack has also looked noticeably average since Luongo went down. Perhaps it's a bad idea for the Canucks to pay $25M for Luongo to no longer be a Canuck? Whodathunkit?


Good point, if we buy out Lou, then who's going to replace him? Eddie Lack Attack? I like him a lot, but not sure he's ready. Go out and sign/trade for a guy? U will probably sign a player who won't be as good as Lou and as far as trade goes, u have to give up assets to acquire something. Gillis's MO is to play it safe, if Aqua-man buys out Lou and leaves him with nothing, Gillis won't know what to do and pee in his pants. :lol:

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:22 pm

^^^ :roll:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/28795/rumblings-market-for-goalies-countdown-to-ryan-oreilly-decision

Countdown on O'Reilly

Circle Feb. 28 on your calendar. It’s as of that date that the trade freeze lifts on Ryan O'Reilly and the Colorado Avalanche can move the star player if it wishes to do so. They weren’t allowed to trade him for 12 months after matching Calgary’s offer sheet last Feb. 28.

There are several teams we’ve spoken to over the past week that are eagerly anticipating Colorado’s decision on O’Reilly. Do they move him or keep him?

He’s a restricted free agent July 1 whose qualifying offer costs $6.5 million. No small potatoes. Of course they can also sign him to an extension for less money if the player was up for that.

If Colorado wants to seriously upgrade its defense corps, it likely needs to make a quality top-six forward available. Is that O’Reilly, pending UFA Paul Stastny or is there another way to get that defenseman?

If the Avs do put O’Reilly on the trade market (and again, we don’t’ know if they ever will), there would be at least a dozen teams interested. One of them would likely be the Vancouver Canucks, who are said to covet O’Reilly and have depth at defense, which is what the Avs would be looking for. Food for thought…


Something around Edler for ROR?? :thumbs:

Then sign him to 8 years at $5.5m per and watch those Stanley Cups start rolling in. :wink:
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