Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby okcanuck » Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:37 am

Good one jon. RD can disect all he wants . The fact remains that every team misses drafting gems every year.
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Tciso » Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:39 pm

JonT21 wrote:Omg we drafted Bryan Allen over Datsyuk!!!! what a joke of a franchise.


And... every team passed on Burrows not one, not twice, but 9 freaking times.
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby The Brown Knight » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:06 pm

Change of heart boys,

I'm not sure I like the idea of trading Horvat, Shinkaruk, etc, etc. for Evander Kane.

I'm going to be back to my original line of thought in stating that unless we're in contention for a true franchise player like a Giroux or a Malkin, that trading our farm for a solid player isn't adviseable.

I know it's tempting to "go for it" and bring in a star player, but this is what the Flames and Leafs did.........and they ended up depleting their farm while remaining a middle-of-the-road team that steadily declined.

I look at this team and maybe we do have a pretty decent future ahead. Lack, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Gaunce, Tanev, Kassian, Corrado, etc.

I still think that this team needs a true franchise player once the twins fade/retire (which is why I made my thread the other day about the twins), but this Canucks team looks like it will have a pretty solid foundation for the future.

Keep things as is.

And yes - this probably is the biggest 180 flip-flop that I've ever made on here. :D

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:34 pm

Evander Kane is a pipe dream, caped Garam Masala crusader of Gotham. Somebody was just feeding Hockey Widow some scoop that somebody overheard Gillis mumbling from a drunken stupor down at Trader Vics with the rest of the eye bag whiskey drinkers

Jets already have a very serviceable defence with Enstrom, Buffy, Bogosian, Trouba and Stuart, not to mention that defenseman on team Canada's WJC' team - josh Morrisey was drafted 13th overall by the Jets in the 2013 draft. They certainly do not need an Edler for Kane as the main parts. Jets need forwards badly, not defence and so getting that deal done would have to involve Horvat and parts. Don't see that happening

Schroeder/Booth for Andrew Ladd is a more realistic trade scenario
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby ukcanuck » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:27 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Evander Kane is a pipe dream, caped Garam Masala crusader of Gotham. Somebody was just feeding Hockey Widow some scoop that somebody overheard Gillis mumbling from a drunken stupor down at Trader Vics with the rest of the eye bag whiskey drinkers

Jets already have a very serviceable defence with Enstrom, Buffy, Bogosian, Trouba and Stuart. They certainly do not need an Edler for Kane as the main parts. Jets need forwards not defence and so getting that deal done would have to involve Horvat and parts. Don't see that happening

Schroeder/Booth for Andrew Ladd is a more realistic trade scenario



Ladd ? where do I sign?
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby rats19 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:29 pm

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby The Brown Knight » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:09 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Evander Kane is a pipe dream, caped Garam Masala crusader of Gotham. Somebody was just feeding Hockey Widow some scoop that somebody overheard Gillis mumbling from a drunken stupor down at Trader Vics with the rest of the eye bag whiskey drinkers

Jets already have a very serviceable defence with Enstrom, Buffy, Bogosian, Trouba and Stuart, not to mention that defenseman on team Canada's WJC' team - josh Morrisey was drafted 13th overall by the Jets in the 2013 draft. They certainly do not need an Edler for Kane as the main parts. Jets need forwards badly, not defence and so getting that deal done would have to involve Horvat and parts. Don't see that happening

Schroeder/Booth for Andrew Ladd is a more realistic trade scenario


Lol good post RD. The more I think about it, the more I just don't want to part ways with any of our top young guys.

Schroeder and Booth for Ladd? I think I'd be a little too heart broken if we got rid of our resident bear Hunter. :P Ladd would be tremendous though.....although I wonder if him and Kesler would be able to co-exist?

Ps - Hey RD - do you keep in touch with THINKER at all? What happened to him do you know? I was booted from Canuckscentral about 5 years earlier than most of you and so I don't know what transpired over there. (Other than the fact that Creeper became a huge 1st line star).
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby RyanGinger » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:08 am

Edler, Hansen, 1st for Simmonds
Sign Callahan (5.1m) and either Boyes/Frolik (between 2-3m) in the offseason

Sedin---Sedin---Kass
Simmonds---Kesler---Callahan
Higgins---Santorelli---Frolik/Boyes or Burr
Richardson---Horvat---Burr or Frolik/Boyes

Depending on Santo's, Kassian's, and other UFA/RFA resigning costs, it should be cap compliant.
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby BladesofSteel » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:42 am

I dunno, do you think that will be enough to nab Simmons?

Maybe we should throw in Horvat?

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Topper » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:18 am

Flames have traded former 1st round pick and Heat regular Greg Nemisz for truculent Kevan Westgarth.
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Tciso » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:22 am

RyanGinger wrote:Edler, Hansen, 1st for Simmonds
And, maybe buy an ounce of crack for $20 while you are at it.

Seriously, what makes that guy worth so much? I'd expect we'd get him for Edler, or even less. If we even really want him that badly (although, I do like his long contract).
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby RoyalDude » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:08 pm

Tciso wrote:
RyanGinger wrote:Edler, Hansen, 1st for Simmonds
And, maybe buy an ounce of crack for $20 while you are at it.

Seriously, what makes that guy worth so much? I'd expect we'd get him for Edler, or even less. If we even really want him that badly (although, I do like his long contract).


LOL, that is a bad trade for us. Sort of like trading Cam Neely and our 1st pick (4th overall was it?) for Pederson

Fuck that Neely trade was bad, I will never get over it, that trade has cursed this team eternally. Who the fuck trades a 21 year old Vancouver boy, power forward, tough with amazing skills, 4th pick in the draft for a small, slow older centre with health issues??? Has to be a fucking conspiracy.
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby ClamRussel » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:15 pm

BladesofSteel wrote:I dunno, do you think that will be enough to nab Simmons?

Maybe we should throw in Horvat?

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby RyanGinger » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:06 am

Wouldn't mind JVR. Might play with Kes in Sochi
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Postby Meds » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:35 am

RyanGinger wrote:Edler, Hansen, 1st for Simmonds
Sign Callahan (5.1m) and either Boyes/Frolik (between 2-3m) in the offseason

Sedin---Sedin---Kass
Simmonds---Kesler---Callahan
Higgins---Santorelli---Frolik/Boyes or Burr
Richardson---Horvat---Burr or Frolik/Boyes

Depending on Santo's, Kassian's, and other UFA/RFA resigning costs, it should be cap compliant.


While we're at it we should probably trade Horvat, Hamhuis, and Burrows for Joel Ward and John Erskine.
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