Island Nucklehead wrote:
Meds wrote:With management in Nashville apparently going in a different direction now, and Trotz being gone, I think prying Weber out of Nashville is a much more doable thing than it was a month ago.....not necessarily for the Canucks, just in general for every team. From what I've heard about the way Trotz runs his show, I think he was likely a deciding factor in Weber's re-signing with the Predators even after Suter left for Minnesota. The fact that management has never been willing to spend what was needed in order to attract top offensive talent and get the Predators to a point of being competitive with the contending teams might mean that Weber isn't just available for the right price as far as the Preds are concerned, he might actually want out of Nashville altogether at this point. Of course this is just speculation.
1. Weber didn't resign in Nashville. He signed a contract with the Flyers, and the Predators matched it.
Right, forgot about that. Did Weber and Nashville have to agree to the same terms as what Philly offered? Or could it have been restructured by Nashville.....either way both Shea and Preds got screwed by the Flyers there when Nashville matched. And they had to match, no question.
2. The Canucks don't have the assets to land him, imo. A team like the Oilers, DESPERATE for a top-pairing d-man, would give up a lot more for a guy under contract forever, without a NTC. I think the Oilers would put everyone but RNH and Hall on the table, and the Canucks can't compete with the likes of Eberle, Yakupov, Shutlz or the 3rd overall pick.
I agree with you there about the Canucks not having the assets to land him. I just can't see it. It would have to involve Edler, who probably wouldn't waive for Nashville, but the extra pieces just aren't in place for the Canucks to make a legitimate offer.
Island Canuck wrote:
Meds wrote:Quite frankly I can see Dale Tallon being the front-runner in such a deal at the draft, that is, if Florida actually had any desirable roster pieces to give back in such a deal. Campbell, Jovo, and Gilbert, being is veterans on the blueline. Campbell is way too expensive for what he brings, Jovo is going to be 38 this year, and Gilbert just isn't what the Predators would be looking at as a veteran return. The rest of their defensemen are young and inexperienced. But they could definitely give up the top pick and some youth.
I could see Florida having interest in Edler, not sure if he's enough to get up to the first overall. Edler and #6 for number 1? Would Edler waive to go to Florida? Could we ship him to Detroit for the 15th overall, would 6+15 do the trick?
I don't think Edler + 6 is realistic. Edler + Hansen/Higgins + 2nd is more reasonable. Prospects are an unproven thing, there have been plenty of top 3 picks that have peaked as 3rd line players or disappeared altogether. The Panthers have said they are loaded with youth, so they're looking for experienced players, loading up an offer with one experienced guy and then draft picks and prospects is probably not meeting their needs. If this was 2015 and McDavid or Eichel were on the table, then the price is higher and worth paying.
Also with the way this team is going right now I think Edler to Detroit for their 15th is also going to include a player coming back, cap space aside, I think Edler is still worth more to the Red Wings than just a 15th overall in a somewhat "meh" draft. In that case I think, depending upon who the player is, you talk to Buffalo and try to move up to 2nd by dangling a player and the 15th.
Failing that you do whatever you can with that 15th and talk to every team in the top 10 and see what it would take to move up. Edmonton and Calgary are non-starters as divisional rivals, but getting a shot at either 2 of these wingers with size and skill, or a combination or Virtanen/Ritchie/Dal Colle and Haydn Fleury would be a pretty nice feather in our team's cap.