Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Post by SKYO » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:44 pm

Or trade Booth+Hansen for a top 6 LW whose on the block....Vanek?+

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Vanek Kesler Santorelli
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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2013-14

Post by RyanGinger » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:22 am

Right now, I wouldn't want a trade to happen. In a slump or when we're not on a 7-game win-streak is when I'd do something for our top 6. Wouldn't mind not making any top 6 trades this year and trading edler for picks & signing penner and/or callahan in the offseason.

I was checking TSN stats, and almost everyone is 'hot' or has had points in their last 2 games. :mrgreen:
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Post by Diehard1 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:55 am

RyanGinger wrote:Right now, I wouldn't want a trade to happen. In a slump or when we're not on a 7-game win-streak is when I'd do something for our top 6. Wouldn't mind not making any top 6 trades this year and trading edler for picks & signing penner and/or callahan in the offseason.

I was checking TSN stats, and almost everyone is 'hot' or has had points in their last 2 games. :mrgreen:
Why wait until you go through a slump to make a trade? If you can improve the team at any time you should do it. Keep in mind the team has won 6 of their 7 in a row without Edler so it's not like they are missing him.

Trade from a position of surplus to shore up a position of weakness, this should be a no-brainer no matter how your team is playing at the time of the trade.

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Post by Tiger » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:54 pm

Diehard1 said :
Why wait until you go through a slump to make a trade? If you can improve the team at any time you should do it. Keep in mind the team has won 6 of their 7 in a row without Edler so it's not like they are missing him.
Agree and if their is a good trade to be made using Edler , make it as soon as possible. Give the "new " guy time to learn the Canucks system and get used to his team mates before the playoffs..
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Post by Topper » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:32 pm

Seven straight wins and the trade rumour mill continues to run rampant. LOL
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Post by The Brown Knight » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:45 pm

Topper wrote:Seven straight wins and the trade rumour mill continues to run rampant. LOL
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Post by Hockey Widow » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:19 pm

Topper wrote:Seven straight wins and the trade rumour mill continues to run rampant. LOL

This team still has glaring holes. We have scored a lot of goals lately but against weaker defensive teams with average goaltending. Up against a strong defensive team and with above average goaltending I think we would be still hard pressed to score more than 2 per game. Defensively we are playing very well and are getting above average goaltending. Therefore we still gave the same holes we had when the season stared.

I include Boston in that statement given their injuries and flu.

The team would be better with Richardson centring the 4th line and either a healthy and producing Burrows with the twins or a new top six with them. So I still see us short a third line centre and top six forward. I would hate to give up depth on D but packaging a bunch of bottom 9 players in hopes of filling our needs is wishful thinking.

So my hope is either MG does nothing or goes big.
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Post by RyanGinger » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:09 pm

Wonder if Penner would sign here for around 3.7m. That'd be some nice size and skill.
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Post by The Brown Knight » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:14 pm

RyanGinger wrote:Wonder if Penner would sign here for around 3.7m. That'd be some nice size and skill.
No for Penner.

The guy has padded stats due to playing with Getzlaf and Perry.

Penner does play reasonably well come playoff time, but is a notorious floater during the regular season.

It's no coincidence that both the Oilers and Kings dumped him.
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Post by RyanGinger » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:32 pm

The Brown Knight wrote:
RyanGinger wrote:Wonder if Penner would sign here for around 3.7m. That'd be some nice size and skill.
No for Penner.

The guy has padded stats due to playing with Getzlaf and Perry.

Penner does play reasonably well come playoff time, but is a notorious floater during the regular season.

It's no coincidence that both the Oilers and Kings dumped him.
What if we played him with Kes and gave him PP time with the twins? He could probably pot 20. Starting to regret proposing 3.7m tho
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Post by RyanGinger » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:35 pm

RyanGinger wrote:
The Brown Knight wrote:
RyanGinger wrote:Wonder if Penner would sign here for around 3.7m. That'd be some nice size and skill.
No for Penner.

The guy has padded stats due to playing with Getzlaf and Perry.

Penner does play reasonably well come playoff time, but is a notorious floater during the regular season.

It's no coincidence that both the Oilers and Kings dumped him.
What if we played him with Kes and gave him PP time with the twins? He could probably pot 20. Starting to regret proposing 3.7m tho
Sign Callahan for 5m as well as Penner for 2.5-3.5m and you got a Top6 of

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Post by RyanGinger » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:39 pm

Off-topic, but Hansen's NTC is gonna kick in, so if we were to trade him could we after the POs but before his NTC years begin?
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Post by Vader » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:04 pm

Meds wrote:
Vader wrote:
Meds wrote:Why is everyone so high on Vanek?

He has only scored 40 goals twice in his career.

He is barely a point per game player......far from it actually.
Because it's not 1989 anymore - Vanek has put excellent numbers in THIS era of hockey..
This is as bad as your take on Claude Giroux

Only two 40 goal seasons- sheesh - barely a point game. Where do you get this shit?
Ummmm......I look at stats and trends......just consider Vanek's production since he entered the league.
Ummm...clearly you don't look very closely to stats and trends. You need to consider his scoring relative to the overall scoring in the league

In the past 7 years on an adjusted basis he's been top 5 in the NHL in goals three times and top 15 six times. His rookie year was excellent as well- 25 goals.
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Post by Boston Canucker » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:50 am

Vanek's got talent to be sure, but he's a dog who would drive Torts crazy and would wilt under the pressure of playing in hockey crazy Van.

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Post by Lancer » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:31 pm

Boston Canucker wrote:Vanek's got talent to be sure, but he's a dog who would drive Torts crazy and would wilt under the pressure of playing in hockey crazy Van.
He would wilt playing in the Western Conference - period. The guy appears to have lost his fire. Just doesn't seem to be a good fit.

Wonder what it will take to get E. Kane, or whether it would be worth it to wait for the Jets to flounder further in case the price goes down?
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