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I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:35 pm
by Meds
We always rant about the bullshit discipline handed down by Shannahan and the Nitwits Hockey League, but I figured why not a place for the WTF head scratching times where there is no supplemental discipline and the media seems to have been handed a gag order by the NHL regarding the play in question.

I think it should be obvious that this has been sparked by Brent Burns' hit on Brendan Morrow last night in St. Louis.

Most of the sporting news sites I've been checking out aren't even touching on that hit, the entire focus is on Lapierre's hit on Boyle, and obviously it looks much worse when a guy has to leave the game on a stretcher, but Boyle is apparently feeling OK according to San Jose coach Todd McLellan.

My take on Burns hit is that it was actually a far more dangerous play than Lapierre's hit on Boyle. Boyle was heads up ice as he went took possession of the puck, he was looking right at Lapierre coming in on the forecheck, Boyle than button hooks sharper than Mason Raymond ever did, and turns his back right along the boards. Lapierre then makes contact from behind and hits Boyle into the boards. Boyle had the puck and knew that Lap was coming, Lap didn't even smoke him that hard, he just made contact and pushed him into the boards in a rub the guy out kind of way. Momentum did the rest and Lap's poor decision resulted in a play that was needlessly bad. Lap gets 5 for boarding and a game misconduct. But later in the same game we see something similar, and IMHO a helluvalot worse. Morrow did NOT have possession of the puck, he was completely unaware that Burns was coming in to check him because Burns came from the back side as Morrow was going for a loose puck. Burns then puts the shoulder into him FROM BEHIND and then follows through with his arms and tosses him head first 6 feet into the side boards. This warranted only a 2 minute boarding penalty. What the FUCK is the NHL thinking here? Maybe Morrow didn't get hit right in the numbers, but it was damned close. No, Morrow didn't go off on a stretcher, but the hit was much worse and had far more intent judging by the follow through and lack of puck possession. So I say again, WTF?!?

So, not only do the on-ice officials make two completely different rulings on what are VERY similar plays, they ignore puck possession, and they ignore the precedent that they've already set, but then the league comes along and calls no foul for Burns while Lapierre gets an in person hearing with Shannahan and Co.

Honestly, WTF is the NHL thinking?

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:01 pm
by KeyserSoze



Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:16 pm
by rats19
I find it impossibly frustrating. I see zero consistency or precedents being used in decisions. Its willy fucking nilly.

Willy=shanahan/NHL
nilly=players/fans

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:41 pm
by Art Vandelay
So you treated us to that long winded diatribe just to tell us the Burns hit was worse than the Lapierre hit. Nice, I hope you didn't type that out on your phone . Btw the Lappy hit was way worse and it will show in the suspension

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:51 pm
by Jovocop




Both Burns and Lapierre are no angels for sure. Unfortunately, Morrows is not a superstar but Boyle is (cough)... Burns is a top-six forward for the Sharks and Lapierre is a fourth liner. :(

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:00 pm
by Jovocop
Art Vandelay wrote:So you treated us to that long winded diatribe just to tell us the Burns hit was worse than the Lapierre hit. Nice, I hope you didn't type that out on your phone . Btw the Lappy hit was way worse and it will show in the suspension
I am sorry but I don't see the Lapierre's hit WAY WORSE than Burn's hit. Lapierre just hit Boyle at the wrong time. If Boyle did not stumble at the time of the hit, it might have been a nothing hit. On the other hand, Burns hit Morrows' number just a couple feet away from the board. To me, that was much more dangerous and intentional than Lapierre's hit.

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:08 pm
by Meds
Jovocop wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:So you treated us to that long winded diatribe just to tell us the Burns hit was worse than the Lapierre hit. Nice, I hope you didn't type that out on your phone . Btw the Lappy hit was way worse and it will show in the suspension
I am sorry but I don't see the Lapierre's hit WAY WORSE than Burn's hit. Lapierre just hit Boyle at the wrong time. If Boyle did not stumble at the time of the hit, it might have been a nothing hit. On the other hand, Burns hit Morrows' number just a couple feet away from the board. To me, that was much more dangerous and intentional than Lapierre's hit.
Vandelay is just a sock troll for someone. Don't even dignify it.

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:10 pm
by Rumsfeld
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Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:46 pm
by Art Vandelay
Meds wrote: Vandelay is just a sock troll for someone. Don't even dignify it.
That's nice. i poke your post through its swiss cheese cover and I'm a troll just because I dont type up a 500 word essay. The fact is the league isn't even looking at the hit on Morrow because he embellished it. Lappy had all kinds of time to just nudge Boyle or do a fly by. It was a stupid, careless , unnecessary play by a guy who is known as a dirty player. He drilled him in the fucking numbers when the guy was in a vulnerable position. It doesn't matter if Boyle stumbled or not. Lappiere is a filthy player who has no respect for his opponents.

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:46 pm
by Strangelove
Seriously: NHL supplemental discipline has become a joke.

And I fail to see the point in seriously discussing a joke.

Makes me long for the day when players mostly policed themselves.

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:17 pm
by BingoTough
Meds wrote: Vandelay is just a sock troll for someone. Don't even dignify it.
So I just found the "Add foe" feature which automatically filters out trolls. Quite useful.

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:20 pm
by Rumsfeld
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Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:06 pm
by Meds
BingoTough wrote:
Meds wrote: Vandelay is just a sock troll for someone. Don't even dignify it.
So I just found the "Add foe" feature which automatically filters out trolls. Quite useful.
Yeah, gotta say I finally get why Topper had his "list" back on the old site. Makes the board a much better place all around, but especially when just wanting to bounce ideas off of people and talk hockey.

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:22 am
by Arachnid
Meds wrote:
BingoTough wrote:
Meds wrote: Vandelay is just a sock troll for someone. Don't even dignify it.
So I just found the "Add foe" feature which automatically filters out trolls. Quite useful.
Yeah, gotta say I finally get why Topper had his "list" back on the old site. Makes the board a much better place all around, but especially when just wanting to bounce ideas off of people and talk hockey.
You have ideas?! :crazy:

Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:03 am
by Art Vandelay
Meds wrote:
BingoTough wrote:
Meds wrote: Vandelay is just a sock troll for someone. Don't even dignify it.
So I just found the "Add foe" feature which automatically filters out trolls. Quite useful.
Yeah, gotta say I finally get why Topper had his "list" back on the old site. Makes the board a much better place all around, but especially when just wanting to bounce ideas off of people and talk hockey.
I hate to break it to you but you were on the list amigo.