OOTS: 2013-14

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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby BurningBeard » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:50 pm

Man, the Rangers suuuuuu-uck. Losing to New Jersey 4-0 today makes them, I believe, the worst team in the league in goals for and second or third worst in goals against.

I almost feel sorry for Vigneault. He's got Pyatt playing on the top line now FFS.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby Meds » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:32 pm

BurningBeard wrote:Man, the Rangers suuuuuu-uck. Losing to New Jersey 4-0 today makes them, I believe, the worst team in the league in goals for and second or third worst in goals against.

I almost feel sorry for Vigneault. He's got Pyatt playing on the top line now FFS.


It's almost unthinkable, but could Vigneault's tried and true, stick to our gameplan and let it happen, approach is not working in a league where the officials favor the team that goes out to take it?
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby BurningBeard » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:34 pm

Meds wrote:It's almost unthinkable, but could Vigneault's tried and true, stick to our gameplan and let it happen, approach is not working in a league where the officials favor the team that goes out to take it?

Or maybe his "let the leaders lead" philosophy won't work with a team who's used to being coached by Torts. Who's going to lead that team with Callahan out anyhow? Lundqvist, Staal, Richards?
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby Hockey Widow » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:38 am

I think NYR are simply not as good as pundits talk about. Like any new system or coach there is a learning curve so I'd still give AV time. He is a good coach and under him we had some of the best years in franchise history, not in spite of him. But like most systems and coaches there must be an evolution and that to me was his weakness. He could not evolve from season to season, series to series, game to game, period to period. His message was simply tired here.

But I must admit I listen to every presser Torts gives and I have been surprised at how calm he has been, how positive he has been, how defensive he is for his players not yet throwing anyone under the bus. Could it be this is a new Torts or is it more likely that all the media allowed us to see before was his blow ups thereby convincing us all he was a hot head who beat up on his players? You can sense everyone is waiting for it, almost with gleeful anticipation but to date his pressers have been refreshing. Early days I know but I is beginning to think there is more to the man than the media wanted us to see.

But back to AV, I appreciate what he brought to the Canucks and wish him well. But it was time to move on, a year too late IMHO, but better late than never, ask Nashville. Now there is a team with a very good coach but one I think could use a new voice.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby Meds » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:09 am

Hockey Widow wrote:
But I must admit I listen to every presser Torts gives and I have been surprised at how calm he has been, how positive he has been, how defensive he is for his players not yet throwing anyone under the bus. Could it be this is a new Torts or is it more likely that all the media allowed us to see before was his blow ups thereby convincing us all he was a hot head who beat up on his players? You can sense everyone is waiting for it, almost with gleeful anticipation but to date his pressers have been refreshing. Early days I know but I is beginning to think there is more to the man than the media wanted us to see.


I have seen several Torts pressers from days gone by in which he was VERY defensive of his players. If he felt the need to call someone out he would, but he NEVER let the media do it.

The guy is also nobody's fool. He knows this team needs to learn a new way of approaching their game. He also knows, despite his continual references to still figuring these guys out, that some of these guys are going to take more time to come around, and that some of them will simply not respond to the brow-beating, bus throwing, megalomaniac, style of coaching.

HW wrote:But back to AV, I appreciate what he brought to the Canucks and wish him well. But it was time to move on, a year too late IMHO, but better late than never, ask Nashville. Now there is a team with a very good coach but one I think could use a new voice.


I don't think Nashville would ever be a playoff team without Trotz. The guy does more with less than anyone. Nashville needs to figure out how to attract top players and keep high end skill (Weber and Rinne excepted) before they can go hiring a coach who wants his guys to play a system that puts pucks in the net more often.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby rats19 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:12 am

Wow..Detroit goes up 2 zip..then lose 5-2 over phoenix. With smith getting a goal just to rub it in..
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby Tiger » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:59 am

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:The Haves

Sharks 4 Nucks 1
Sharks 4 Nucks 1
Habs 4 Nucks 1

The Have Nots

Nucks 4 Oilers 1
Nucks 5 Flames 4
Nucks 3 Devils 2
Nucks 3 Flyers 2

Hmmmmm


Yeah, that stat needs to change if we're going to go anywhere post season; but at least we're winning the games we "should" win right now. The past couple of seasons the country club boys didn't show up for a lot of the "easier" games and only seemed interested when it was a contender they were facing. Still really early, but I like some of the character that seems to be (re)emerging with this team.

Pittsburgh will be the next litmus test.

Think we passed the test Eddie.. and all secondary scoring.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:22 am

This Domenic Roussel of Dallas is a good middleweight scrapper in the mould of Rick Rypien. Was hoping that Mallet would be our next Rypper.... ain't looking like it so far

Looks like Seth Jones is proving why he should have gone 1st overall.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby The Brown Knight » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:07 pm

From this past draft, you could see it in Seth's face that he was quite pissed at not being selected 1st.....let alone, the top 3.

He's playing like a guy that is on a mission to prove his detractors wrong.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:42 pm

The Brown Knight wrote:From this past draft, you could see it in Seth's face that he was quite pissed at not being selected 1st.....let alone, the top 3.

He's playing like a guy that is on a mission to prove his detractors wrong.


Brown K. Seth Jones could very well be the NHL's best defenceman for the next decade.

The Mericans have some good young D. Trouba seems to be the real deal as well.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby The Brown Knight » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:46 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
The Brown Knight wrote:From this past draft, you could see it in Seth's face that he was quite pissed at not being selected 1st.....let alone, the top 3.

He's playing like a guy that is on a mission to prove his detractors wrong.


Brown K. Seth Jones could very well be the NHL's best defenceman for the next decade.

The Mericans have some good young D. Trouba seems to be the real deal as well.


For sure.

Seth Jones is the real deal. I could see why Nathan MacKinnon was selected first, but was really shocked that Seth dropped all the way to fourth. No way that should have happened.

Nashville got a fucking steal, no doubt.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby BCExpat » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:46 am

The Brown Knight wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
The Brown Knight wrote:From this past draft, you could see it in Seth's face that he was quite pissed at not being selected 1st.....let alone, the top 3.

He's playing like a guy that is on a mission to prove his detractors wrong.


Brown K. Seth Jones could very well be the NHL's best defenceman for the next decade.

The Mericans have some good young D. Trouba seems to be the real deal as well.


For sure.

Seth Jones is the real deal. I could see why Nathan MacKinnon was selected first, but was really shocked that Seth dropped all the way to fourth. No way that should have happened.

Nashville got a fucking steal, no doubt.



How about that Monahan kid - 6 goals in 8 games. I'm loving this pick by the Flames. :D
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby The Brown Knight » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:17 am

BCExpat wrote:How about that Monahan kid - 6 goals in 8 games. I'm loving this pick by the Flames. :D


He's playing well, no doubt.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby RoyalDude » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:55 pm

BCExpat wrote:

How about that Monahan kid - 6 goals in 8 games. I'm loving this pick by the Flames. :D


Has franchise player written all over him. Not sure what 2013 draft class rook has been better him or Jones.
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Re: OOTS: 2013-14

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:43 am

Wiebo Ludwig wrote:This Domenic Roussel of Dallas is a good middleweight scrapper in the mould of Rick Rypien.



No he isn't.
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