The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

[Strangelove]

Marchand weighs in on Marner's potential contract. LOL
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/marchand-wei ... -1.4323078

I referenced this yesterday Mick: viewtopic.php?p=332793#p332793

Seems the link guy doesn't click on links!

[BigTuna]

Jim Benning would be wise to take a good look at this young Man via an offer sheet he would be well worth it instead of the likes of Tyler Myers or Jake Gardiner as UFAS

Jim Benning invented wise.

We don't have to give up 4 first rounders if we sign Karlsson.

And that is why Mitch Marner is not getting an offersheet (Or anyone else).

An offersheet to Kapanen or Johnsson would cost a second at most.

And teams like the Islanders, who plan to make the playoffs henceforth (lower picks) and have capspace will offersheet Marner.

EDIT: If they offersheet Marner at $10M-per over 5 yrs the compensation is just two firsts, a second, and a third.

And they won't both because that gets matched 100% and they know it. It has to be 12+ at least.

[BigTuna]

Doc, I think you need to tell Tuna, again, that they need to be cap compliant by the opening of the season and that Horton’s 5.3 doesn’t get bumped until the season starts.

https://theathletic.com/74826/2017/07/1 ... -cap-hell/

https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/884890344277639169

Bill Daley confirmed it in the article.


You can LTIR in the summer. It's a myth.

[BigTuna]

Torontonow have 4 players signed next season who will make 700-750 K each. And all are way better than Jay Beagle.

[Strangelove]

all are way better than Jay Beagle.

Delusion thy name is Leaf fan.

[BigTuna]

all are way better than Jay Beagle.

Delusion thy name is Leaf fan.

2018-19

Jay Beagle: GP 42 G 2 A 6 PTS 8 (Salary-3 more years @ 3 million per-Age 33)

Trevor Moore: GP 12 G 1 A 6 PTS 7 (Salary-2 more years at 750 K-Age 23)

Dubas is killing it with cheap talent that plays well.

You obsess over cap. That's great cap management. And remember Calle Rosen, 2 more years at 750K as well and will be on D next season.

Rosen stats (Marlies)
52 7 37 44 +36

[Strangelove]

Yup, it's all about points!

[BigTuna]

Yup, it's all about points!

Suddenly it's not for this discussion. Every other time it's about points with you.

[Strangelove]

Yup, it's all about points!

Suddenly it's not for this discussion. Every other time it's about points with you.

That's because we usually only discuss top offensive players.

Beagle is one of the greatest defensive players in the league.

Your head don't work too well do it?

[BigTuna]

Yup, it's all about points!

Suddenly it's not for this discussion. Every other time it's about points with you.

That's because we usually only discuss top offensive players.

Beagle is one of the greatest defensive players in the league.

Your head don't work too well do it?

Like Leo Komorov is?


When you understand how true cap management works you'll get it.

[Strangelove]

Rebuild cap management is different from contender cap management.

And we keep showing you Dubas is horrible at cap management...

[BigTuna]

Rebuild cap management is different from contender cap management.

And we keep showing you Dubas is horrible at cap management...

You clearly don't get it. All these quality 700K to 750K are great moves. You are constantly asking how they will fill-out their roster next year, Dubas has been doing it all year. And it's not like these guys are not good, look at Trevor Moore.

Rosen/Sparks/Moore/Borgman all making 750K or less. Not all will be steals, but Moore and Rosen in particular look great for the $.

[Strangelove]

Wake up Tuna, you're talking about AHLers.

There are reasons they're cheap you koolaid chugging putz!

[BigTuna]

Wake up Tuna, you're talking about AHLers.

There are reasons they're cheap you koolaid chugging putz!

Moore has 7 points in 12 NHL games with 4th line minutes.
You build your system so you can fill-out your roster with quality and cheap players from the AHL. You don't dip into UFA for a 4th line C.

[Strangelove]

He's cheap right now because he's an AHLer.

If he ever develops into an NHLer he will get paid as such.