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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby nuckster » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:47 am

We should build a shrine - 'here lies the written prediction of a poster on a low volume hockey poster board'. Praise be.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Per » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:47 pm

Someone posted an Elias Pettersson highlight reel for September/October:



So, yeah, we've seen most of those before, but damn, he has some smooth hands! :D

Some of those goals make me think of the Harlem Globetrotters.....
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Jovocop » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:12 pm

Per wrote:Someone posted an Elias Pettersson highlight reel for September/October:



So, yeah, we've seen most of those before, but damn, he has some smooth hands! :D

Some of those goals make me think of the Harlem Globetrotters.....


Besides accurate one-timers, Pettersson can really stickhandle and pass the puck.

Young players like Boeser, Horvat and Virtanen are already contributing in the NHL. The Canucks also have a lot of talents in the pipeline, Goldobin, Dahlen, Juolevi, Gaudette, Lockwood, Demko, Lind, Gadjovich and Tryamkin (if he ever decides to come back to NA). There are a lot of reasons to be optimistic about the Canucks' future.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby micky107 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:34 pm

Not to mention, quite likely, making Vancouver a more attractive destination, once again..
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:57 pm

If Pettersson translates into the NHL it sure will be nice to have he and Boeser in the top six, on different lines. That could give us that elusive secondary scoring we always missed during the West Coast Express days and during the twins hay day.

How many times did we bemoan the fact that after our top line talent and skill fell off dramatically, especially when all we had were the twins carrying our offence.

It sets up to be an exciting time for sure. The Horvat line followed up with

Dahlen/Pettersson/Goldobin!
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:58 pm

That video clip was all about how not to pull a groin if you are a goalie!
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby SKYO » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:38 pm

Pettersson the energizer bunny - just keeps going and going with the scoring. :o
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Per » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:39 pm

SKYO wrote:Pettersson the energizer bunny - just keeps going and going with the scoring. :o

You can say that again; he assisted on the first goal and scored the next two as the Växjö Lakers beat Malmö Redhawks 4-2 last night. Weirdly, he was not involved in their fourth goal. :o

http://www.shl.se/play/video/Malmo_Redh ... autoplay=1
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby ESQ » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:06 am

Per, any insight on Dahlen? He's 7th in scoring in Allsvenskan (9g/9a in 13gp), but with 7 fewer GP he is leading in PPG by quite a bit at 1.38.

I wonder if there's any precedent for an NHL club influencing a Euro team to trade a player to a different/more competitive league.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Hockey Widow » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:49 pm

ESQ wrote:Per, any insight on Dahlen? He's 7th in scoring in Allsvenskan (9g/9a in 13gp), but with 7 fewer GP he is leading in PPG by quite a bit at 1.38.

I wonder if there's any precedent for an NHL club influencing a Euro team to trade a player to a different/more competitive league.



Now I'm not Per nor do I have any insight to which you ask, but......

The plan with Dahlen was to play in Utica but mono got in the way. The Canucks sent him back to Sweden to to play his way back to being healthy. But, his contract has an out window after January which will allow him to return to North America. So I'm assuming the plan is to try and get him back to Utica in the New Year.

Benning has previously said he feels he needs to be on the North American ice as the next step in his development.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby ESQ » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:28 pm

Thanks HW.

I think there's a lot of wisdom in that plan - play himself back into shape in a league that is less physical and (arguably) less challenging than the AHL.

Then transfer to a more challenging league after a few months to continue upwards on the development curve.

I wish this gradual approach had been taken with Rodin, but I suppose he needed to be seen in an NHL camp/preseason.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Hockey Widow » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:43 pm

ESQ wrote:Thanks HW.

I think there's a lot of wisdom in that plan - play himself back into shape in a league that is less physical and (arguably) less challenging than the AHL.

Then transfer to a more challenging league after a few months to continue upwards on the development curve.

I wish this gradual approach had been taken with Rodin, but I suppose he needed to be seen in an NHL camp/preseason.


Rodin got caught in a numbers game. First, he didn't do enough in camp to earn a spot over anyone that was kept. His bad luck, we signed Burmistrov, Gagne and Vanek.

Second he was in a numbers game in Utica due to their veteran rule. When he did play he wasn't showing enough to stay in the line up.

But I guess if what you are saying is loan him out to the SEL for 2-3 months then bring him back, not sure that was possible or would even be allowed.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Topper » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:26 pm

End of the day, Rodin wasn't good enough.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Per » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:30 pm

ESQ wrote:Per, any insight on Dahlen? He's 7th in scoring in Allsvenskan (9g/9a in 13gp), but with 7 fewer GP he is leading in PPG by quite a bit at 1.38.

I wonder if there's any precedent for an NHL club influencing a Euro team to trade a player to a different/more competitive league.

Well, obviously he is too good for the league his in...
That being said, Swedish teams are not farm teams. They will do whatever is best for the team. That particular team. And what is best for them is of course to keep him. Two teams from the SHA will get to challenge the two worst teams from the SHL over a seven game series for SHL status next year. This means an SHA team has really strong motivation to finish at the top, and to have a roster that can compete with an SHL roster.

Still, Dahlén has some out clauses in his contract, so he can decide to leave the team and play elsewhere, under certain conditions. Not sure exactly what the contract stipulates, but there has been widespread speculation that he will transfer to the SHL or the Swiss league (they offer good money) at some point.
Perhaps even go back to Utica. We'll have to wait and see.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Per » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:36 pm

Topper wrote:End of the day, Rodin wasn't good enough.

End of the day, Rödin never got a fair shot at proving himself in the NHL.

That freak knee injury was really unfortunate both for him and the Canucks.
The way he played that last season in Sweden, that was definitely NHL worthy.
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