ClamRussel wrote:Betamax wrote:Clam, what was your opinion of Torts' when he was first hired here and then began coaching the team?
I was torn. I recall being happy the country-club atmosphere was being shaken up but didn't necessarily think we were getting an upgrade in terms of a coach. AV appeared to have gotten stale, the crew appeared to have tuned him out a bit. They certainly weren't working hard enough. I didn't like Torts' declarations one bit. The idea of using the Twins to kill penalties and block shots sounded absurd to me. We had players to do that. They weren't getting any younger and had their best years under Vigneault. AV knew how to use them. I saw that as a negative. I remember being concerned w/ how things ended in NY for Torts. It was basically mutiny. I didn't believe he had changed in only a few months. I appreciated how candid he was but thought he said some insensitive and odd things at the same time. I was disappointed we didn't hire Stevens but preferred Torts to Gulutzan. I remember enjoying how the media were squirming over Torts, they were scared. That was a positive. Something had to give, the playoffs were a total disaster since '11. I thought MG would do more.
What were your thoughts and opinions at the time?
My opinions on Fonzie were well documented when I posted on hfboards. In fact, I was one of the few rational posters there that regularly criticized the guy when we had a bunch of apologists/fanboys on that site making excuse after excuse for him and blinding eating whatever crap sandwiches he was feeding them.
That was sick and was something I did not support. Now, Betamax like one of those 300 Spartan Warriors, valiantly waged "battle" against the numerous disciples of Fonzie at the time and the powers that be on said site! The battle was epic. Well kinda ...
I would like to point out to one thread ... you know the infamous "Cell Phone Incident" involving Fonzie:
re: Coach T's I will walk.
Thread created: 09-16-2013, 05:39 PM
via: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showt ... ?t=1498885
It makes for some very amusing reading, ICYMI the first time.
Since I didn't feel I received the credit I deserve, in the here in now, I would like to take the time to quote myself back on 09-17-2013, 01:55 PM, in reply to former canuckscorner poster, tantalum:
tantalum wrote:No big deal and it should be expected. You are in a meeting. Turn the phone off. It's really just polite and something that is expected in most companies. This is no different. You either want to ask questions/listen to answers or talk/type on the phone. You can not do both.
tantalum wrote:Shockingly Team 1040 is right in line with Torts on this topic. You are in a professional setting so turn it off.
Betamax wrote:Sure. But people do make mistake. Let's remember, Coach Torts is a representative of the Canucks and one of their most prominent figures at the moment. Do you think it's polite to threaten to talk about huge fines, and "walking off" when hearing an inadvertent cell phone go off? Yeah, sure it's annoying. But he could have handled it like what most people would ... in a less than hostile manner. That was just a little incident. Just imagine when something really bothers him this upcoming season. Will all his re-branding talk about changing his approach be nothing more than just that ... talk and the real Torts will appear when he and the Canucks have their stretch of adversity?
Well, that's interesting! Betamax foreshadowing the future ... Nothing new.