The BS Suspension Thread

[Strangelove]

Just when you thought he couldn’t get any more full of himself

Thomas pulls THIS BULLSHIT!

[Fred]

Why are you assuming the Bruins will be in the final?

They ( Boston ) have looked pretty good since early November. Originally I chose Pitts but too many injuries is play a terrible toll on their chances. Philly goaltending and D, Rangers I might be wrong ( I haven't really checked) but they strike me as young in the important positions to make it this year.

There again why would I think the 'Nucks are going to be there

[Potatoe1]

Rangers I might be wrong ( I haven't really checked) but they strike me as young in the important positions to make it this year.

Like goal? no1 line ? top defensive pairing ?

Not young at any of those positions.

There again why would I think the 'Nucks are going to be there

I'm a Canucks fan, so when I talk about them, I talk about what it will take to win the cup. I'm not assuming anything though.

As far as the east goes, I like the rangers right now unless Crosby comes back and then the Pens are the clear favorite. IMO the Bruins are going to get betmaned.

[wafflecombine]

Good points all the way around. I still think Tomas totally highjacked a team event that was supposed to celebrate the cup win. I found it illuminating afterwords how "coached" the player interviews were. You definately got a very different impression of Tomas there than the picture the media painted during the SFC of a happy-go-lucky, team guy.

We will see how things shake out for the rest of the season. The Rangers look very strong and there is no guarantee the Bruin will advance to the cup again. For me though, I found great satisfaction last night in watching Thomas ride the pine while the Caps (without Ovi) beat Boston.

[ukcanuck]

Why are you assuming the Bruins will be in the final?

There again why would I think the 'Nucks are going to be there

I dunno about you but I think that the Nucks will be there because... well, they got there last year and the cast of contenders hasnt gotten drastically better this year. Chicago Improved leaps and bounds During the first round but haven't won the lottery since. Detroit, San Jose and Maybe LA all the same or not much better, the dark horse has to be St Louis and the also rans Minni and Nashville round out the field. With a little Canuck luck, hard work, and hopefully having learned how to win the big game. we should be the Clarence S Campbell bowl winners again in 2012

[Fred]

As far as the east goes, I like the rangers right now unless Crosby comes back and then the Pens are the clear favorite. IMO the Bruins are going to get betmaned.

I had to look twice ..... b e t m a n e d.....any way that would be nice in fact that would be really nice. When ever I've seen Peter Chirelli's recently he looks like he has a tiger by the tail and doesn't know how to let go He's created the monster

I was surprised last night to see Pitts had just won their 7th game in a row...as has Detroit. Pitts have $8 mill Cap Space and Detroit (am I reading CapGeek right) has $14 million to spend come the trade deadline....they can unburden a few teams of their financial woes. Vanc has by contrast $1.8.....Chicago has $20 mill

http://www.capgeek.com/

[tantalum]

Some further fall out from the Thomas affair. It seems several things are coming to the public eye through the Boston media the last couple of days. I had mentioned that when he struggled and lost his job to Rask for that one season the rumours were very much that he was not good in the locker room and they tried to move him but were unable to (substantial cap hit looking like a one season wonder type guy). It seems that due to those rumours Thomas in retaliation removed the Bruins logo from his mask to start the year last season and declared that he was playing the year as "me first"

Now an unnamed member of the Bruins has called Thomas a "[expletive] selfish [expletive]" and not only did they have to shelter him from the Caps game they also had to withhold him from a charity event. It's also starting to seem like Jacobs is not the least bit impressed with his behaviour as indicated in Neely's release which mentions the Jacobs family in addition to the organization. This was Jacobs time in the sun for winning a cup after 39 years and Thomas had a hand in, well maybe not ruining it, but taking the luster away some. Jacobs is not a guy you want to piss off and it seems he might be pissed off. Talk is starting to turn to the fact the NMC Thomas has runs out at the end of the season and that the Bruins will move him.

Thomas pissed off a lot of his team mates and many in his organization with his actions. Free speech gobbily gook aside, that is why he needed to put his big boy pants on the other day and just suck it up.

That and besides the Olympics I can only remember a three news stories that had hockey on the front page of CNN and other news sites. One was the Bertuzzi-Moore incident. A second was the plane crash to start the season. A third was the suicides in the summer. The Thomas snub was the 4th. He embarassed his organization and the league and I'm not sure either will forget that anytime soon.

[Cornuck]

Thomas for Luongo?

From here on in, let's starting putting posts about Thomas' actions in this news thread that someone added yesterday:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9069

Back to the BS Suspensions....

So we're 1/2 way through the season - what grade do you give to Shanny for his suspensions and explanations so far?

[wafflecombine]

In general I am quite happy with the approach Shanahan has taken. I know there have been criticisms about consistency but the expectation that some fans have that he would be perfect (at least perfect with their line of thinking) is ridiculous. Lets put this into context... he replaced Cambell. Words like terrible, biased and inconsistent are synonomous with his tenure. Worse than that, conflict of interest cannot be ignored during last year's playoffs. With his son on the Bruins team, he should have recused himself from any disciplinairy proceedings before the playoffs started. /end rant

However, back on topic.
Shanny's first 1/2
Adherence to mandate & objectives - 7/10
Use of new tech and media to promote transparency- 8/10
Clarity of explanation in published discipline actions - 8/10
Consistency in application of the rules - 6/10
Maintaining a class act in a job where everyone craps on you - 9/10

Overall score 38/50 or 76% (think that was a pretty solid "B" back in the classroom.)

Just my $0.02

[tantalum]

SHanahan has his own inconsistencies, however, no question the league is getting more strict and is not letting nearly the same amount go unpunished. Even if you may not agree with them the Shanahan videos do clearly show where he is coming from when he makes a decision. And it isn't the stammering about things that aren't relevant that Campbell would do when he was caught giving out a stupid punishment.

The thing that I continue to dislike has nothing to do with who decides discipline. It's the tie in to injury. It's remains too big of a factor to me as most dangerous plays do not end up causing injury.

Anyone see the Cooke "hit" on Jackman last night? Jackman just about KOed himself as he jumped into the boards after minimal contact (contact was even from the side!).



Funny part is the announcers going on and on about the hit and not realizing how bad it was embellished. Cooke has been a lot of things in his career but he has cleaned up his game this year.

[Jovocop]

SHanahan has his own inconsistencies, however, no question the league is getting more strict and is not letting nearly the same amount go unpunished. Even if you may not agree with them the Shanahan videos do clearly show where he is coming from when he makes a decision. And it isn't the stammering about things that aren't relevant that Campbell would do when he was caught giving out a stupid punishment.

The thing that I continue to dislike has nothing to do with who decides discipline. It's the tie in to injury. It's remains too big of a factor to me as most dangerous plays do not end up causing injury.

Anyone see the Cooke "hit" on Jackman last night? Jackman just about KOed himself as he jumped into the boards after minimal contact (contact was even from the side!).



Funny part is the announcers going on and on about the hit and not realizing how bad it was embellished. Cooke has been a lot of things in his career but he has cleaned up his game this year.

I did not know that Jackman is such a good actor.

[Blob Mckenzie]

I thought only Canucks dove. At least thats what Bingo and the elders preach at Bountiful.

[Listercat]

Bitz gets 2 games for his hit on Clifford. No problem with that. Clifford is plug as is Bitz. Clifford left the game.

Weber slams Zetterberg's head into the glass not once but twice, hard enough to break the helmet. Weber gets a $2500 fine, the second such fine in his career. Weber is a Norris calibre D man and Zetterberg is an elite forward. Zetterberg was not injured in the incident that occurred after the final buzzer.

Shanny IMO fuked up big time here. He has said that if there is an injury that punishment will be more severe. Duncan Keith got 5 games for his elbow on Daniel and is now back playing. Daniel is still out. Who is being punished here?? Instead of looking at whether an injury happened they have to start looking at "intent". Was it Weber's intent to slam Z's head into the glass? Yes. Did he succeed? Yes. By sheer luck Z was not injured. Weber's "intent" was no different than Bitz, in fact it was more obviously a blow targeting the head. Weber's intent was no different than Keith either. Both were aimed purposefully at the head of an opponent.

When we discussing this in the Sedin-Keith thread, I said that if the NHL is "serious" about reducing these incidents the suspensions need to have a base line minimum of say 10 games for any blow targeting the head.(excepting fights) If they want an "add on" when there is an injury impose whatever the "average" concussion recovery time is in addition. The players will know up front that they are going to receive at least 10 games and more if an injury results.

The existing procedure even though Shanahan has been more severe than Campbell is still much too arbitrary and leaves the League and therefore the "Game" open to criticism for its inequity and favouritism.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Listercat the NHL is a bush league. It really is so far below the other big team sports in the way the league is run, the way the make up the rules during the season, the way certain teams are catered to and the way they discipline the players.

Bitz should have stopped short, punched Clifford in the pack of the head and then palmed him and drove his face into the glass. Then he would only gotten a $2500 fine by the letter of the law.

Brendan Shanahan is the latest clown following a series of other clowns. Colin Campbell and Brian Burke.

It's getting harder and harder to watch the games anymore and to care about them. The NHL head office and the officials they employ are ruining what should be a great sport.

[wafflecombine]

Yeah, I would have been much more content if Weber had gotten at least 1 game.

Bitz's hit was plain dumb and a no-brainer suspension. 2 games is ok in my mind.

But the Weber reaction was just out to lunch. Fine, punch the guy. It happens. But slamming a head into the glass like a turnbuckle and breaking the helmet is Bitz dumb. Superstar or not, justice needs to be blind.