Prospects Thread 2014-15

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Re: Prospects Thread 2014-15

Post by Lancer » Sat May 16, 2015 3:09 am

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:
Cassels thrives on playing a physical game that allows him to be one of the more feared players on the ice when he is out there. He has really good skating ability and he is as tenacious as they come. His defensive game is quite sound and he has already demonstrated the leadership that his father had during his professional career.
SKYO wrote: Cassels finishes with 10G, 21A in 21 playoff games.
Wow, great to hear. Hopefully he'll become a Mike Peca type player. :D
If Cassels can translate into someone close to the caliber of player Peca was, it could make the 2013 draft one of the most critical for the team in years regardless of what happens to Shinkaruk or Subban.
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Post by Topper » Sat May 16, 2015 8:19 am

Then he could be traded for a fear of flying Russian
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Post by RoyalDude » Sat May 16, 2015 8:53 am

Lancer wrote:
Todd Bersnoozi wrote:
Cassels thrives on playing a physical game that allows him to be one of the more feared players on the ice when he is out there. He has really good skating ability and he is as tenacious as they come. His defensive game is quite sound and he has already demonstrated the leadership that his father had during his professional career.
SKYO wrote: Cassels finishes with 10G, 21A in 21 playoff games.
Wow, great to hear. Hopefully he'll become a Mike Peca type player. :D
If Cassels can translate into someone close to the caliber of player Peca was, it could make the 2013 draft one of the most critical for the team in years regardless of what happens to Shinkaruk or Subban.
Yeah Cassels is defintetly a Peca type but a bit bigger at 6'-1" 190. Has that same warrior game and lethal hitting. You can't have enough of that in the line-up. Cassels is s winner, he brings it
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Re: Prospects Thread 2014-15

Post by rats19 » Sat May 16, 2015 10:19 am

Further: if mcjesus is going straight to the bigs...why oh why wouldn't the guy who all but shut him down.....
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Post by Strangelove » Sat May 16, 2015 6:43 pm

RoyalDude wrote: Yeah Cassels is defintetly a Peca type but a bit bigger at 6'-1" 190. Has that same warrior game and lethal hitting. You can't have enough of that in the line-up. Cassels is s winner, he brings it
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Re: Prospects Thread 2014-15

Post by Todd Bersnoozi » Sat May 16, 2015 7:31 pm

RoyalDude wrote: Yeah Cassels is defintetly a Peca type but a bit bigger at 6'-1" 190. Has that same warrior game and lethal hitting. You can't have enough of that in the line-up. Cassels is s winner, he brings it
If Richie Rich doesn't re-sign with us, it'll open up a spot at centre ice. I think Cassels might have a good chance to make the big club next season. NHL coaches generally hesitate to play guys who are a liabilty defensively; if Cassels can shut down McJesus, u know the kid can check. Just work him in like we did with BoHo. Put him on the 4th line and tell him not to worry about scoring, just play smart defensively and a solid 2-way game. Depending how he adjusts, he might be potential guy to play some PK. He seems to play with an edge, so he can be a gritty/energy player for us as well. We could also really use a right shot centreman who can win some draws, if he can do that, it'll be a really bonus. He really brings a lot to the table and has some elements that we really need. Linden Vey is like the opposite and doesn't really provide us with any needs on our roster.

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Re: Prospects Thread 2014-15

Post by Uncle dans leg » Sat May 16, 2015 7:43 pm

There's some definite promise coming up the ranks...especially down the middle.

We desperately need something on D though. Its going to become a massive issue in the not too distant future me thinks.
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Post by ClamRussel » Sat May 16, 2015 9:02 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:There's some definite promise coming up the ranks...especially down the middle.

We desperately need something on D though. Its going to become a massive issue in the not too distant future me thinks.
I think the playoffs proved its already a massive issue.
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Post by Topper » Sat May 16, 2015 9:06 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:There's some definite promise coming up the ranks...especially down the middle.

We desperately need something on D though. Its going to become a massive issue in the not too distant future me thinks.
We have too many centres.
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Post by rats19 » Sat May 16, 2015 9:37 pm

Topper wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:There's some definite promise coming up the ranks...especially down the middle.

We desperately need something on D though. Its going to become a massive issue in the not too distant future me thinks.
We have too many centres.
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Re: Prospects Thread 2014-15

Post by Topper » Sat May 16, 2015 10:09 pm

rats19 wrote:
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Uncle dans leg wrote:There's some definite promise coming up the ranks...especially down the middle.

We desperately need something on D though. Its going to become a massive issue in the not too distant future me thinks.
We have too many centres.
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Re: Prospects Thread 2014-15

Post by lostinarink » Tue May 19, 2015 10:26 pm

People use all sorts of criteria to "rate" Vancouver's prospects. I thought I would try a different one - how many games will they play in their NHL career. Many players who are not top prospects end up putting in far more years than the top guns. As such, can be considered to be valuable assets. Of course, they might get those games playing with another team :hmmm:

My list includes all players born in the 90's. (Plus Conacher cause he missed the 90's by only 2 weeks)

I know that some of these may sound crazy but here we go:

750 game list
Horvat
Virtanen
Cassels

500 game list
Baertchi
Demko
McCann
Shinkaruk
Kenins
Gaunce
Pedan
Subban
Clendenning
Tryamkin
Kassian
McMillian
Sbisa
Vey
Cederholm

200 game list
Corrado
Hutton
Pettit
Stewart
Eriksson
Markstrom

Call up <200 games
Jensen
Friesen
McNally
Grenier
Cannata
LaBate
Sautner
Archibald
Conacher (Dec 89 birth)
Zalewski

Never
McEneny
Fox
Bloomstrand
Blain
Liberati
Williamson
Beattie
Andersson
Beattie
DeFazio
Roden

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Post by Topper » Wed May 20, 2015 12:55 pm

DeFazio already has 2 NHL games
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Re: Prospects Thread 2014-15

Post by Rayxor » Wed May 20, 2015 1:33 pm

Topper wrote:DeFazio already has 2 NHL games
Bit of an overachiever, that one.

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Re: Prospects Thread 2014-15

Post by Rayxor » Wed May 20, 2015 2:58 pm

lostinarink wrote: My list includes all players born in the 90's. (Plus Conacher cause he missed the 90's by only 2 weeks)

I know that some of these may sound crazy but here we go:

750 game list
Horvat
Virtanen
Cassels

Etc...
If anything, some of these are seriously lowballing. Cassels playing 750 game would be great as he wasnt a high pick or projected to be a big scorer.

Horvat and Virtanen only playing 750 games would be a disappointment, as would Kassian at 500 (he alreaedy has 198). Even underachieving high draft picks will hit that range. Compare these 1st round big forwards from the 90s. (also remember that they lost a full season in their prime years).

1993
#3 Chris Gratton 1092 games
#6 Rob Neidermeyer 1153 games
1994
3rd Radek Bonk 969 game
14th Ethan moreau 928 games
17th Wayne Primeau 774 games

1995
4th Chad Kilger 714 games

1996
6th Boyd Devereaux 627 games

None of these guys were superstars, but even a journeyman can get 700 games.

To think that our best forward prospects will fall short of being the next Taylor Pyatt (8th, 1999, 859 games) does not inspire confidence.

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